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Unread 06-01-2013, 11:19 AM   #301
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Dude, there was a reason I posted an example of a pic that would be helpful. Either way, with what little we'll be able to tell with the pic you posted, that primary shouldn't be that far open. Are you dead-positive that it's not hanging up on the fast idle somehow?

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Unread 06-01-2013, 11:26 AM   #302
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Quite certain... I can't see it hanging anywhere.

One thing I just though of is, I am running a 1" carb spacer. Would that have anything to do with the idle thing?
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Unread 06-01-2013, 11:27 AM   #303
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I'm tryin to work wit ya....

But theres black magic going on in these things.
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Unread 06-01-2013, 11:53 AM   #304
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It's not voodoo..

What Shawn and I were hoping to see is where the throttle plate lines up with the first progression hole. Is it covering it up completely, or can you see a portion of hole?

We need a much closer pic to see it.

Please read Shawn's first post in this thread. Specifically the part about Curb Idle Throttle Position.

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Unread 06-01-2013, 12:34 PM   #305
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I know you guys are getting frustrated with me, and trust me I am too.

I'm working with a handicap, here.
I don't have internet connection at the garage and it takes for every to upload pics, get your comments and send mine. I actually had to give up for the day because my phone died and I didn't know what to do next. Not to mention, I don't know what all of the parts of the carburetor are called, so that's taking me some research.

Below is yet another pic, closer.

The only hole I see is on the primary side. That one is well uncovered.
Don't see one on the primary side.

Now that I am home on the computer, I'll take a look at that link.

Does anyone think it's worthwhile for me to contact Holley Tech Support to see if they have any input on the primary thing?

Also, any thoughts on the spacer?

Thanks for the continued patience.
I know I'm not making it easy on you guys...

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Unread 06-01-2013, 12:53 PM   #306
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I guess it's a slot in the primary side that you are looking for, not a hole like the Weber has.

This may help.

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Unread 06-01-2013, 01:10 PM   #307
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Ok, the hole you're seeing should be a manifold vacuum port. The transition slot is what I was hoping to see and it sure looks over-exposed to me. Why in the world you can't get that throttle plate to close down some more is beyond me but that would certainly explain your 1,000 rpm idle and your nasty-looking spark plugs. Get a good look at those pics Matt posted and compare them to your transition slot exposure. The transition slot should have just enough below the throttle plate to look like a square.

It might be worth a call to Holley and see if there's a way to email them your pics. It might not seem like it but this is making progress.


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Unread 06-01-2013, 01:31 PM   #308
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Can you take a close up picture of the linkage side?
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Unread 06-01-2013, 01:40 PM   #309
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Your Transmittion kick down adjuster screw may be the problem.................

Do you have the Holley PDF for that carb? If not I can email it to you.
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Unread 06-01-2013, 01:43 PM   #310
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if after all this time your still pinging, I'd get a new motor...
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Unread 06-01-2013, 01:51 PM   #311
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I do have the PDF.
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frhrwa,

He's got a Jeep with an engine, not a golf cart with a "motor". Yeah, it's a pet peeve...

If he gives up after all of this, I will personally hunt him down and string him upside down from his nut sack. Copy?

Besides, he's learning a ton, as I'm sure a few followers are, as well. Who really cares if it take another 20 pages?

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Unread 06-01-2013, 02:50 PM   #313
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frhrwa,

He's got a Jeep with an engine, not a golf cart with a "motor". Yeah, it's a pet peeve...

If he gives up after all of this, I will personally hunt him down and string him upside down from his nut sack. Copy?

Besides, he's learning a ton, as I'm sure a few followers are, as well. Who really cares if it take another 20 pages?

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Worth repeating. And I will turn him right-side up so he has a nut sack wedgy


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Unread 06-01-2013, 03:13 PM   #314
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No worries guys!

As long as I still have support, I'm not giving up in this ENGINE...

I definitely AM learning a TON, and the improvements have me psyched!
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Unread 06-01-2013, 04:02 PM   #315
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Worth repeating. And I will turn him right-side up so he has a nut sack wedgy Shawn
Damn, I just spit some quality liquor on my keyboard!!

2X, so what's the update? Can you adjust the primary throttle plate to the correct position, or is your garage session over?

Come on, man, let's get your ENGINE humming.

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