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Unread 05-14-2013, 06:44 AM   #151
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I was going to borrow a light, but of the mindset that if you will need it more than once, you should own it.

So I have been doing a little looking around for one that will suit the majority of my needs - jeep and otherwise - AND include a tach function, and found the following.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/equ-3568/overview/

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As long as you don't have a MSD or Mallory ignition system, those types of Timing Lights are worth it. They have many features that are usable but they DO NOT work with multiple spark discharge ignition systems. My wife bought me one about two Christmas' ago, and it would work sporadically on my MSD ignition system. Checked both MSD and Mallory website and they both confirmed that any Timing Light with an advance feature will not work. Had to send it back and use my trusty Craftsman light that my father had since 1972.

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Unread 05-14-2013, 07:18 AM   #152
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...Had to send it back and use my trusty Craftsman light that my father had since 1972.
I thought about just grabbing a Craftsman, but the newer ones seem to have terrible reviews...
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Unread 05-14-2013, 07:42 AM   #153
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I've used this one for two years, most recently with my MSD ignition on the 360, and it works well.

The advance feature is nice, and it reads dead on with the timing tape. $99 at Autozone.

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Unread 05-14-2013, 08:49 AM   #154
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Those plugs are rich.
A little digging has me thinking the red coloration might be from additives or detergents in gasoline.. MMT maybe
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Unread 05-14-2013, 08:59 AM   #155
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I just saw your plug pics. What kind of fuel are you running? I've never seen plugs get coated like that. Your spark looks weak as hell, too.


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Unread 05-14-2013, 09:07 AM   #156
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I thought about just grabbing a Craftsman, but the newer ones seem to have terrible reviews...
Craigslist is your friend for finding good old timing lights that are built well and cost next to nothing. I was able to buy another Craftsman for $10 on Craigslist that is the same as my original. Last year, my fathers timing light bit the dust because I laid it on the air cleaner where it promptly fell into the cooling fan and met its demise.

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The advance feature is nice, and it reads dead on with the timing tape. $99 at Autozone.

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Do they even have a timing tape available for the 258 engine? If so, where?

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I just saw your plug pics. What kind of fuel are you running? I've never seen plugs get coated like that. Your spark looks weak as hell, too.
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I've never seen plugs look like that either.
I mean, I'm no expert. But I've changed my fair share of plugs...
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Do they even have a timing tape available for the 258 engine? If so, where?
I thought timing tapes were based on balancer diameter, not engine....
Maybe I screwed up getting the tape kit from Summit?
Oh well, it was cheap.
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Hey Keith,

Sorry, I should have been more specific. My 360 balancer has the timing marks, out to about 60 degrees I believe, already stamped into it.

My 258 didn't. That's where the advance feature on my timing light was really helpful.

I have noticed, if you let the timing light's plug wire touch the MSD's coil wire, it will do funky things to the readings.

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Unread 05-14-2013, 09:35 AM   #161
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Plain ol' Regular Unleaded
I've never seen plugs look like that either.
I mean, I'm no expert. But I've changed my fair share of plugs...
That is some crazy staining on those plugs. How many miles on them?

On the bright side, I don't see any evidence of detonation.

Here's mine after 2k miles on my rebuild, A/F mixture readings from 13-15.

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Unread 05-14-2013, 09:45 AM   #162
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Plain ol' Regular Unleaded
I've never seen plugs look like that either.
I mean, I'm no expert. But I've changed my fair share of plugs...
I should've been more clear. I mean is that 87 swill from the indian colony?

I've always run Shell or Chevron (premium when the funds allowed) and, although I had some pinkish stuff on there, they never looked like they'd been power coated.

You're also running the hottest plug and there's no evidence of it even trying to clean up, not even at the tip of the electrode where it's the hottest. I wonder if we should bring your ignition system up for review.

Any thoughts on an upgrade?


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Had a lawnmower that had plugs that looked like that. Not sure if it was in the one with Stabil or without. Coincidentally a CJ8 plug

Anyways, Holy Wow, Batman, Will those plugs ever cool? They look hot enough to run kerosene in that engine. I'm surprised the pistons haven't slapped them silly yet.

Get some colder plugs like Matt has above. AND DON"T LET THE COUNTER MAN TALK YOU INTO PLATINUM PLUGS.

Scrape out that RTV and install a e-core coil and apapt the distributor to take the larger Ford Cap. (I think it's called a Team Rush upgrade???)
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I should've been more clear. I mean is that 87 swill from the indian colony?

Any thoughts on an upgrade?
Yes and yes.

Just wasn't sure if I should dive right into the upgrade or spend the money on oem parts to start getting it ironed out.
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Unread 05-14-2013, 10:18 AM   #165
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Get some colder plugs like Matt has above. AND DON"T LET THE COUNTER MAN TALK YOU INTO PLATINUM PLUGS.

Scrape out that RTV and install a e-core coil and adapt the distributor to take the larger Ford Cap. (I think it's called a Team Rush upgrade???)

I was going to shoot for cooler plugs, but someone (I forget who) was adamant about only running the recommended plug, so that's what I picked up (985's). Not sure how to determine the cooler plug numbers. I suppose they will be able to look it up at the counter.

And I thought the upgrade to the Ford cap was only for the V8's distributors...?
I could be wrong. I've read so many threads trying to figure this out, it gets confusing.
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