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post #136 of 844 Old 05-12-2013, 07:19 AM Thread Starter
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Just a FYI on off the shelf on octane boosters from auto parts stores.

I'll use the brand that says +4 on the can as a example. This stuff does not make 93 octane fuel out of 89 octane, it's only 4/10's. so by adding the proper amount the octane is only increased to 89.4.

Don't waste your hard earned $ on this stuff.

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One bottle as a test was all unneeded to waste my money on.... Lol

I can get 110 (I think) octane, but it's like 8.00/ gal..... Nooooo thanks! Lol


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post #137 of 844 Old 05-12-2013, 08:00 AM
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My 258 and 360 both seemed to run better on the premium grade, as well. Around here, I think premium is 91 octane.

Bill, thanks for the warning on the octane boosters. I've often wondered if they do any good.

So, without doing the math, you'd have to dump a butt-load of that stuff in your tank to make a difference. Good to know.

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post #138 of 844 Old 05-12-2013, 08:22 AM
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Here's a interesting read.

http://www.exxon.com/USA-English/GFM...y_gas_faq.aspx
Be sure to read the part about how long gas lasts.
I use 87/89 in everything except my Harley Davidson, Honda 400EX ATV, and Stihl 2 stroke tools.

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Regarding octane boosters... read the label before you buy. The stuff on our shelves states it can damage the engine over extended use.

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I run only non-ethanol fuel in my Jeep. That stuff is the devil!

www.pure-gas.org

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post #141 of 844 Old 05-12-2013, 10:19 AM
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Go buy a gallon of toluene for octane booster. That's what the gas company's use to boost their numbers.

One of the car magazines even posted a ratio.
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post #142 of 844 Old 05-12-2013, 12:47 PM
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Yup!
I plan to post pics of all of the plugs
Keep'm in order so we can see if you have internal eng. issues.
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post #143 of 844 Old 05-12-2013, 12:50 PM
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IF you really feel he need for high octane fuel.
Go buy some 110 oct. avation gas.
I the real world. Just buy the highest oct. pump gas you can......
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post #144 of 844 Old 05-12-2013, 06:39 PM Thread Starter
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Don't forget a timing light....
I was going to borrow a light, but of the mindset that if you will need it more than once, you should own it.

So I have been doing a little looking around for one that will suit the majority of my needs - jeep and otherwise - AND include a tach function, and found the following.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/equ-3568/overview/

Thought's/ opinions?
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The standard craftsman dial back timing light cant be beat. Plus it works with MSD.

My tach is a cheep summit tach that I set on the battery and hook up with alligator clamps.
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....My tach is a cheep summit tach that I set on the battery and hook up with alligator clamps.
That's a good idea.

Since I just dropped a bunch of cash on the other tools/ testers I'll need for this project.

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post #147 of 844 Old 05-14-2013, 04:54 AM Thread Starter
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OK, back from a needed vacation and made some needed improvements on the Jeep thanks to you guys. I really needed to see some progress as I was getting pretty bummed out by the whole thing. So here's what I did, and where I am at:

1) Replaced the Cap/ Rotor/ Plugs (oem)/ Wires
Here are photos of the plugs I took out (in order, front is to the left):





I don't know if you can tell in those photos, but they all look like this:



Found this glop under my Cap. I'm assuming it is some sort of dielectric grease or silicone(?). It's a light blue color. Anyone know what it could be?



2) Then, I removed the ported vac advance on the dizzy and connected it to manifold vac - Tee'd into the port on the intake manifold, behind the carb.

3) Took it for a test drive and MAN, WHAT A DIFFERENCE!!

There may have been a slight pinging, but if there was I couldn't hear it over the exhaust. I drove it pretty hard - well, as hard as I dare with no brake lights.... AGAIN! lol.

Definitely more power and running closer to what I am used to from this thing.

Two things I didn't do:
Check for vac leaks (totally forgot because I was excited to try the vac change.....lol)

Swap out the T-stat for the 180* unit.
didn't do this yet because the silicone would have had to set up before I test drove it. And the engine was obviously hot after I drove it.

No work on it tonight. Dinner with the GF's parents.
Still waiting for my Summit delivery.

Thanks again and keep the info coming!!

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Those plugs are rich.
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post #149 of 844 Old 05-14-2013, 05:52 AM Thread Starter
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Those plugs are rich.
Yeah....
I'm confused because prior discussions have indicated pinging being due to a LEAN condition...
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post #150 of 844 Old 05-14-2013, 06:00 AM
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Make sure to clean all that silicone off. I wouldn't want it restricting the vacuum advance movement somehow.

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It's just a Jeep, and if you don't wheel it once in a while, it's not even that.
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