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post #1 of 21 Old 09-24-2017, 08:58 AM Thread Starter
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Heirloom CJ5 Build

Hey fellas, figured it was a good time to start a build thread on the old jeep. About 6 months ago my uncles gave me their old 79 CJ5 that's they'd had for 25+ years. I'd grown up always hearing crazy stories about running this thing in the swamps of Alabama where they were raised so it was really cool to be able to take the keys. The last time it was tagged was 1998 when it was used for duck hunting in Arkansas.

Legend has it that they bought this from a guy that built it to race in Mexico because of everything that's was already done to it. Here's where it's starting out:

ENGINE- AMC 304
Edelbrock intake
Holley 4 barrel carb
Mallory ignition
Hot cam w/ matching valve springs and lifters
Headers

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Front and rear bumpers
Warn winch
Smittybuilt full cage
Racing bucket seats
Rear mounted fuel cans
Side steps
Hella lights
Unknown height lift
32" mud tires
Bed lined interior


Now since this thing has seen a pretty hard life and has been sitting for 10 years it obviously needs a ton of work. Pulling the AMC 304 out along with the T150 3-speed and toying with the idea of an LS swap with a four speed. I already have the tub pretty much stripped down to get ready for a trip to the sandblaster. This will be a full frame-off restoration. I want to do it right the first time and get rid of all the problems and rust so it will be perfect when it's done. Going to be a long process but I will share my progress along the way here with you guys

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post #2 of 21 Old 09-24-2017, 10:58 AM
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if you pull that motor, keep the power steering pump bracket. they are very hard to find these days and worth at least $150.
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post #3 of 21 Old 09-24-2017, 09:00 PM Thread Starter
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if you pull that motor, keep the power steering pump bracket. they are very hard to find these days and worth at least $150.
Interesting. How much are 304's and a T150 fetching these days as a package? Great swap for somebody with a 258
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Perfect as is!! So much character. Congrats!
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post #5 of 21 Old 09-25-2017, 07:34 AM
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I'm with PondScum, it's an heirloom and perfect the way it is.
If that was my heirloom, I'd put my money into restoration, bodywork, and paint.
Congrats on your inheritance!
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I'm with PondScum, it's an heirloom and perfect the way it is.
If that was my heirloom, I'd put my money into restoration, bodywork, and paint.
Congrats on your inheritance!
Thanks guys! My real conundrum is justifying spending the money on an EFI kit, as that's my main goal. Reliability and efficiency is key. Trying to figure out if it's worth it to spend $1500 on the kit plus a rebuild or just start fresh. Any of you guys gone this route and happy with the AMC afterwards?
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post #7 of 21 Old 09-25-2017, 03:53 PM Thread Starter
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This weekend's project was to tear down the jeep some more. Ripped out the fire hazard of a wiring harness, but to get to a lot of it I needed to remove the dash. To remove the dash, I needed to take out the cage because it blocks two of the mounting bolts. To take out the cage I needed to strip the bedliner from the inner tub that was sealing it and all the bolts to the body. You can see where I'm going with this... never ending surprises. No big deal though because the bed liner needed to come off before sandblasting anyways. That job in itself took all of 8 hours just to get the back half of the tub stripped. Pain in the a**. Also got everything disconnected under the hood to prep for pulling out the motor/trans
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Now is a good time to do a wheel well notch and gain a few inches between seat and steering wheel.

As this Jeep has credentials (folklore, legends and the like), it might be nice to keep the 304. FI it if you feel it would make it more reliable, it would certainly improved a bunch of stuff like angles and elevation.

Good luck and have fun!
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Cage and hood be gone!
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.....Pulling the AMC 304 out along with the T150 3-speed and toying with the idea of an LS swap with a four speed. This will be a full frame-off restoration.
This will NOT be a restoration based on the other statement you made. Restored means back to how it rolled off the showroom floor.

Personally, I have no interest in FI on my 304. It cranks for a little while after sitting for a few weeks but then after that will fire right up with with just a quick turn of the ignition key and runs great.
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This will NOT be a restoration based on the other statement you made. Restored means back to how it rolled off the showroom floor.

Personally, I have no interest in FI on my 304. It cranks for a little while after sitting for a few weeks but then after that will fire right up with with just a quick turn of the ignition key and runs great.
Your leaking pressure off somewhere, not "normal". Injector(s) may be bleeding off.

Restored means a lot of things to a lot of people. Not sure if every "restored" vehicle is put back to mile 1. As a matter of fact, a lot of "restorers" prefer parts that are original with many years and miles on them. Food for thought.

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Injectors? For how often I drive the thing it doesn't bother me enough to figure it out.

Restored means stock configuration. Swapping out the engine for an LS would be a restomod.
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Your leaking pressure off somewhere, not "normal". Injector(s) may be bleeding off.

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WSS, I think you misunderstood Orange. he was saying he had no interest in converting to FI because his (assuming) carburetor-fueled Jeep starts and runs fine, except when he hasn't driven it for a few weeks. (which is pretty typical for carbs)

Personally, the no-warmup drivability, and the ability to idle and run like normal at extreme angles made converting to TBI a no-brainer.

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WSS, I think you misunderstood Orange. he was saying he had no interest in converting to FI because his (assuming) carburetor-fueled Jeep starts and runs fine, except when he hasn't driven it for a few weeks. (which is pretty typical for carbs)

Personally, the no-warmup drivability, and the ability to idle and run like normal at extreme angles made converting to TBI a no-brainer.
Da, ya, I missed it. My Jeep is still carbureted. I know the advantages, just hard to stump up the cash. I have thrown enough in carbs at it to have a nice TBI system already.
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Looking forward to following this build.

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