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Unread 06-18-2013, 03:37 PM   #1
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Headers anyone??

Anyone running headers on their 304 or 360 inside the body??? Trying to decide whether or not to install. Pics are good!!

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Unread 06-18-2013, 03:47 PM   #2
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'Black Betty's' headers are on the inside.





Kind of tight to do any work though, I think these are Hedmans' they came on 'BB' when I got 'er. I personally prefer Hookers as I had good luck with them and as I recall the tube design lended themselves to better access to those dammnable header bolts. These were on my Steppenwolf CJ back in the '80's

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Unread 06-18-2013, 04:04 PM   #3
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304??
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Unread 06-18-2013, 11:03 PM   #4
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Just bought hedman elites in frame...I pick them up Saturday. i'll post pics after I'm done
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Unread 06-19-2013, 07:13 AM   #5
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That's what I'm looking at for mine! Let's see some pics of your efforts....no audio though. I know how hard those bolts are!!
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Unread 06-19-2013, 08:23 AM   #6
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304??
The 'Steppenwolf' CJ had a 304, 'Black Betty' has a 360 out of a waggy.
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Unread 06-19-2013, 08:27 AM   #7
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That's what I'm looking at for mine! Let's see some pics of your efforts....no audio though. I know how hard those bolts are!!
Grade 5 is all you'll want to use on header bolts, just in case one breaks off, 5's are way easier to extract than 8's. (Learned that lesson on an old Buick GS 400)
As I recall (been a few decades) the Hookers on my old 'Steppenwolf' CJ had additional clearance around those notorious AMC 'dogleg' shaped exhaust ports. I don't know if they retained this feature but since I got back into Jeepin' I sure do miss 'em
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Unread 06-19-2013, 08:31 AM   #8
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I have headman headers on mine, $50 still in the package on craigslist. Had to bend the passenger side out to clear the starter and dent the tube on cylinder one to clear the steering shaft. You can get by the passenger side with a high torque mini starter.
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Unread 06-19-2013, 11:52 AM   #9
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I meant they get rusty and unbearable to get out without cussing a bit!

Cowjuice.........I ain't bending nothing!!!! )
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Unread 06-19-2013, 12:35 PM   #10
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stay with the stock manifolds, the change in performance is minimal at best and I have read numerous times how they leak etc.
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Unread 06-19-2013, 01:03 PM   #11
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When I took mine out, I got the ones that came out easy, then drove around a couple days, and the rattling/ pressure loosened up a few more. Took like a week and a half, but I didn't break any bolts.
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Unread 06-19-2013, 02:51 PM   #12
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stay with the stock manifolds, the change in performance is minimal at best and I have read numerous times how they leak etc.
Not to create a dispute but I think each manufaturer has their own settings for clearances. These Headmans on 'BB' come right out after I remove the spark plug wire brackets.
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Unread 06-23-2013, 09:41 AM   #13
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Doug Thorleys on my 401 and fit with no problem. But I'm building from the frame up and am locating my steering column so I know it will fit but just mounting it up in the stock locations they fit fine. Starter has plenty of clearance. Going in a CJ6 with a 'glass tub.
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Unread 06-23-2013, 05:17 PM   #14
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HOw are those Thorleys for header bolt wrench clearance? Can you get a socket on 'em all? I'd like an alternative to those expensive Hookers. and you know what I really mean.
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Unread 06-23-2013, 08:20 PM   #15
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Thanks for the input!!
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