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post #1 of 14 Old 12-20-2007, 06:58 AM Thread Starter
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HD Steering Solutions???

Looking to upgrade the steering components during the build and was looking for an HD drag link/tie rod manufacturer. The truck is definately going to be seeing some moderate off-roading (depending on what you definition is - we're talking rocks, not fire trails) and am quite sure the 20+ year old soda straws that AMC used for steering linkage will not work. Pretty much the only manufacturer I have found in Big Daddy, but was looking for some additional options. If you have a HD kit lying around I would be interested in that too. Thanks.

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post #2 of 14 Old 12-20-2007, 07:30 AM
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You can purchase them at 4wd or quadretec. Just looked at them this mourning. IIRC 4wd have their own brand also.JC

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Did a quick search, Tellico, and Rugged ridge also offer the HD tie rods. JC

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I built this set up for my CJ-7, I reinforced the pitman arm with 1/4" plate all around it and I built the tie rod and draglink out of 1.5 O.D. chrome-moly, using 1 ton tie rod ends.

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post #5 of 14 Old 12-20-2007, 08:22 AM
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Very nice!
I have done similar links using 1" x1/4 wall dom Heavier than stock but not as beefy as 1.5 molly.
Just get some heavy wall tube, cut it to length and get it bored and threaded at your local machine shop. Heavier ends need their tapered holes reamed to a larger size.

... much cheaper than kits.
Enjoy!

...a well prepped, well driven, vehicle should do well in any terrain, including the highway.

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I installed the ones from MORE. I do a little more then moderate offroading and they preform flawlessly.
http://www.mountainoffroad.com/more.htm
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Very nice!
I have done similar links using 1" x1/4 wall dom Heavier than stock but not as beefy as 1.5 molly.
Just get some heavy wall tube, cut it to length and get it bored and threaded at your local machine shop. Heavier ends need their tapered holes reamed to a larger size.

... much cheaper than kits.
Enjoy!
Hmmmm, Never thought of this, not sure why. I think I may give this option a whirl.... Sent you a PM re: the taper necessary to fit larger ends.
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post #8 of 14 Old 12-20-2007, 09:30 AM
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I got these from Jim's Off Road on Ebay.

They are huge. Come with the tie rod ends, too.

Can't beat 145 bucks for them, either. They come in wide or narrow track.
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post #9 of 14 Old 12-20-2007, 03:55 PM
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Someone REALLY didn't want that pitman arm to do anything stupid!

Here is a tip for you...
I got tired of having to play 'Strigent the drag link' every time we went out, so I did about the same thing the guy in the picture did, Heavy wall tubing...

Also made my Hi-Lift handle into a drag link replacement...
You know, Murphy's law, if you have a spare, it won't happen anymore!...

And it hasn't! Haven't bent a drag link in the past two years now that I'm ready for the darn thing!
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www.searchers4wd.com

They will custom build you. Their steering kits are around $300 (drag link, tie rod all with Heim joints). I just purchased mine from them based on a referral and have been pleased with their service. Just another resource... Hope it helps.

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post #11 of 14 Old 12-20-2007, 10:23 PM
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when measuring dom or other tubing for tie rods or drag links,do you recomend cutting to length so the rod end is about at the half way point of the threads?Most likely going this rout and using heim's

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when measuring dom or other tubing for tie rods or drag links,do you recomend cutting to length so the rod end is about at the half way point of the threads?Most likely going this rout and using heim's
Yep! But verify the toe in and readjust it (if necessary) before measuring as a badly bent tie rod can affect it.
I don't recommend heims for stearing (expecially the cheap summit heims) as they seem prone to contamination induced wear on a friend's rig. They are right out front in the dirt, snow, ice, sand, salt, weather. I used heavier tie rod ends and did a flip (requies a tapered reamer) at the same time (no issues since), they were cheaper than quality heims (free.. I had them on hand) and replacements will be availiable in any town with a parts store.
Enjoy!

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Ya know what Happy Joe, I did not think about out of town replacements..Good point..Im going with 3/4 ton axles and a high steer set up..So one ton tre's should be the way to go..I did the tre flip on my one cj and it worked perfectly..

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There are many options out there if you look. JP magazine did the Big Daddy kit on one of their project vehicles. I think it was Project Hatari (CJ6 rebuild).

They said it went on easy and was a very good product for the price.

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