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Unread 02-13-2009, 06:42 AM   #1
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Haynes Manual vs. Chilton Manual???

I recently bought a 1980 CJ7 and bought a Haynes repair manual. I hear a lot of people speak about the Chilton manual, but I never hear much about Haynes. Is the Chilton manual much better or different from the Haynes manual??

Just trying to decide if I need the Chilton? Thanks!


Advice from someone who has both would really be appreciated!

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Unread 02-13-2009, 06:46 AM   #2
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The Chiltons I have sucked so that is why I picked up the Haynes. Both leave out a lot, but I have been able to make due with the Haynes.
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Unread 02-13-2009, 06:46 AM   #3
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I got both and use both. Some stuff is better in one and not the other.
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Unread 02-13-2009, 07:07 AM   #4
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I agree both have their pluses...
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Unread 02-13-2009, 07:31 AM   #5
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You really want the factory shop manual but the go for $70.00+. Not something that you would always leave in your Jeep. The Chiltons/Haynes will both pay for themselves and they can stay in the Jeep for when the need arises away from home.
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Unread 02-13-2009, 07:40 AM   #6
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From what I understand, Chiltons actually owns haynes. You'll find some info in one that you won't find in the other--either direction. It's not likely to be worth the money to buy both. If the info isn't in yours, just ask the fellers on this board.
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Unread 02-13-2009, 07:42 AM   #7
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I have both and like others said they have their differences. They have some different illustrations, so combined they make an OK manual.
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Unread 02-13-2009, 07:44 AM   #8
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Factory service manual. The first time you use it for info not in Chiltons or Haynes and you don't have to take it to a mechanic it's payed for itself.
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Unread 02-13-2009, 07:57 AM   #9
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I go with Haynes, but to be honest, I actually have both.
Just the Haynes always looks like it 100 years old! Better 'Quick Reference', so it gets 'Fingered' more.

Remember, NEITHER of these are Factory Service Manuals (FSM)!!!!

Haynes and Chiltons are MAINTENANCE Manuals, intended to give you the most basic R&R information (Remove and Replace, or Rebuild & Replace),
These DO NOT give you failure trees, diagnostic information, ect. you will find in a FSM!

In my OPINION, If you don't spend $20 on a Haynes or Chiltons manual and look your 'Issue' up in it first,
Or read it cover to cover in the bathtub or on the pot so you are familiar with the proper names of parts, where they install, HOW they install, ect.

You shouldn't ask questions here until you have...
That way you at least know enough to ask an intelligent question, and include the pertinent facts...
Or at least be able to give intelligent answerers when asked the pertinent questions!...

IE: Don't wait two pages into a "My 'Motor' Don't Run" to tell us you have an HEI distributor,
Or you were cutting 'Emissions' wires/hoses out of the engine bay when the 'Stoppage' occurred!
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Yeah, ditto on the factory manual. I have that and the Haynes (1949-1986 models), and I've found the factory manual to be much better than the Haynes. Plus, it doesn't cover 37 years of CJs that I don't need. And even though the original factory manual's pages are printed on a much lighter weight paper, it's about three times thicker than the Haynes.
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Unread 02-13-2009, 08:15 AM   #11
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I have an original 1978 FSM in like new condition. I just ordered and received the same manual on CD and it's a decent reproduction in PDF. I got the CD because I don't want to mess up the original manual.

Here's where I got it.

http://www.themotorbookstore.com/19jefashmaon8.html
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These folks sell original and reproduction Jeep FSMs.
http://www.thejeep.com/manual.html
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Unread 02-13-2009, 09:00 AM   #13
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You really want the factory shop manual but the go for $70.00+. Not something that you would always leave in your Jeep. The Chiltons/Haynes will both pay for themselves and they can stay in the Jeep for when the need arises away from home.
You would think they would scan them to disk and sell them for cheaper.
I know google books does this all the time.
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Unread 02-13-2009, 12:01 PM   #14
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You would think they would scan them to disk and sell them for cheaper.
I know google books does this all the time.
See reply #11

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Unread 02-13-2009, 02:22 PM   #15
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Chilton sucks. Most often the help goes something like this:

Alternator removal:

Step one: Remove wiring connected to alternator.
Step two: Remove alternator.

Installation is reverse of removal.

The Haynes manuals usually provide better step by step instructions, and actually have pictures of common difficult portions of procedures, while Chilton has diagrams at best.
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