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Unread 07-30-2012, 08:38 PM   #1
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Grand wagoneer axle swap question about width??

I was looking into getting wider axles for my 7 and was wondering how wide the wagoneer axles are and what points you measure from?? also when you do this do you generally need to get diffrent legth driveshafts?

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Unread 07-30-2012, 08:41 PM   #2
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Wheel mounting surface to wheel mounting surface. You'll probably have to change front driveshaft out, but rear should be fine. there are alot more experienced people than I about the driveshafts, but for width, wheel mount surface, or WMS to WMS.
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Unread 07-30-2012, 09:59 PM   #3
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If you are staying sua with the same springs, your existing driveshafts might work. Now is the time to go SOA though...just sayin...
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I used Marvel once before I took my Jeep out on the trails. I didn't get stuck all weekend so I guess it works.
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Unread 07-31-2012, 05:08 AM   #4
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If you decide to go SOA you might wanna look for an early bronco rear, theyre already setup that way and they measure 58" wms and 36"(much like wide tracs) between perches and best of all its a 9" Ford, stout to begin with and GOBBS of aftermarket support even if your looking for full width the F150 9"s are plentiful. even though my 20 w/moser axles has held up so far with 38.5s Im prepping a 9" to replace it with once I get the 360/304 swap done....OCG
OH almost forgot, youll have to outboard your springs up front for waggy axle, and if memory serves (which is iffy) the waggy axles are 63" wms and you need to find early ones that have pass side drop (im thinkin early 80s and back) guluc OCG
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If you decide to go SOA you might wanna look for an early bronco rear, theyre already setup that way and they measure 58" wms and 36"(much like wide tracs) between perches and best of all its a 9" Ford, stout to begin with and GOBBS of aftermarket support even if your looking for full width the F150 9"s are plentiful. even though my 20 w/moser axles has held up so far with 38.5s Im prepping a 9" to replace it with once I get the 360/304 swap done....OCG
OH almost forgot, youll have to outboard your springs up front for waggy axle, and if memory serves (which is iffy) the waggy axles are 63" wms and you need to find early ones that have pass side drop (im thinkin early 80s and back) guluc OCG
the waggy axles you want are late 70's for the front and anything 80 and newer for the rear (as long as they are not out of a quadratrac). remember that the newer waggys had both the d44 and the hd amc 20 rears, both are strong. The hd amc20 is stronger but the d44 has a much better aftermarket support.
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I used Marvel once before I took my Jeep out on the trails. I didn't get stuck all weekend so I guess it works.
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Unread 07-31-2012, 08:21 AM   #6
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You didnt mention your wheels, if your planning on new ones it doesnt matter but if youd like to keep the ones you have you need to check and see what the waggys use, Im thinkin the later ones might be 6 lug, it was another reason I chose the 9" they use the same 5x5.5 as my CJ and I love my bullet holes....OCG
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Unread 07-31-2012, 08:31 AM   #7
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I think your right about the 6 lug. I know you can get parts for 5x5.5 but im sure they cost a pretty penny
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Any '74 and up fullsize Cherokee or Wagoneer/Grand Wagoneer is six lug.

'80 and up front axles have the diff on the wrong side for a CJ. The narrow track FSJ axles are about 4" wider than CJ wide track. All Waggies/Grand Waggies are narrow track. Only the Cherokee Chief and pickups were widetrack.

Find the WMS to WMS widths of all of them at www.jeeptech.com
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Ihave a 93 xj, I'm wanting to.do.a 8.8 in rear, but have not made desision on front yet, would the 44 out of an 87 waggy work for front end matched with 8.8. Thanks in advance.
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Unread 10-12-2012, 08:55 AM   #10
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Yes it would, though the lug pattern would be different. Next time you should be asking XJ questions in the Cherokee forums, not CJ.
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