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Unread 06-23-2013, 04:51 PM   #1
2Xtreme
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Give me one GOOD reason not to jump ship...

I'm really considering ditching the CJ and moving up to a TJ...

Tired of having a Jeep I spend more time working on than driving, and more money fixing than filling.

I've had this thing 3 years and have put MAYBE 1000 miles on it, including miles towed to the off road park....

Thoughts...?

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Unread 06-23-2013, 04:54 PM   #2
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I have had several friends "jump ship" and they all say its just not the same. I've had mine for over 10yrs now and wouldn't trade it for the world.
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Unread 06-23-2013, 05:01 PM   #3
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You'll no longer be able to play the "sympathy" card when talking to TJ owners?
Just kidding, there comes a time when one must move on. I had a truck that I fought with for 18 years and finally threw in the towel. It was paid for, always got me home and generally did what I needed but time is important too. You have to make a logical assessment of cost (time & money) vs. benefit (enjoyment, use, capability) It's not easy but if you're thinking about it, it's probably time to move on.
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Unread 06-23-2013, 05:02 PM   #4
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I've had mine for several years. Just gotta make it reliable. But that costs $$$$$.. The bigger door openings would be nice though
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Unread 06-23-2013, 05:03 PM   #5
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How much do you want for your CJ?

Pictures, please....
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Unread 06-23-2013, 05:18 PM   #6
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Move over to a TJ, but not up.

If a hobby is not fun, it's not worth doing. If you're burned out on your CJ, maybe it's time to move over.

I love wrenching on my CJ. For me it's part of the package. CJs aren't cheap either; spending some money is involved. If you don't want to do that, or it causes a hardship, why do it?

I won't encourage you to keep a hobby you don't enjoy. I do encourage you however, to have fun in what you do!
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Unread 06-23-2013, 05:51 PM   #7
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Nothing wrong with a TJ. Its like a smoother riding more comfortable CJ7.
I have to still include it in the real Jeep family. after all it shares many same/similar parts. Wheel base ect.
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Unread 06-23-2013, 06:47 PM   #8
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I currently have both a 81 cj7 and a 99 tj. they are both great rides but I prefer taking the cj out 10 to 1 over the tj. really the only time the tj gets driven is if we are going somewhere of any distance. if it came down to it and I had to get rid of one of them the tj would leave without a thought
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My thoughts are this:

Fuel injection
Coil suspension
WAAAAY more aftermarket support
And a 2 hr drive (in the CJ) to the closest legal wheeling. 1.5 hr in any other vehicle
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Unread 06-23-2013, 06:54 PM   #10
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Hey, even Jeephammer went TJ .
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Unread 06-23-2013, 06:55 PM   #11
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Kind of like moving up to a man because the woman you've been married to for xx years is so high maintenance. Oh, wait a minute, maybe that does makes sense after all...
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Unread 06-23-2013, 06:57 PM   #12
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Sounds to me like you've already done the analysis and you are just looking for confirmation. I agree with WindKnot. If it's no longer fun move over.
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Unread 06-23-2013, 07:14 PM   #13
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Kind of like moving up to a man because the woman you've been married to for xx years is so high maintenance. Oh, wait a minute, maybe that does makes sense after all...
This is hilarious.
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Unread 06-23-2013, 07:50 PM   #14
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TJ is slow as well, so don't figure you will be going any faster.
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Unread 06-23-2013, 07:53 PM   #15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Xtreme
My thoughts are this:

Fuel injection
Coil suspension
WAAAAY more aftermarket support
And a 2 hr drive (in the CJ) to the closest legal wheeling. 1.5 hr in any other vehicle
I'll address these

What do you know about fuel injection?
Have you priced lift kits for a TJ?
Support. Yes there are more bolt on parts.

Have a look under any New York 97 to 2000 TJ. I've have a friend with a '99, 120,000 miles, the bottom of the frame is rusted worse than any CJ I've seen.

Google : OPDA, ( oil pump drive assembly) '05 and '06 Jeep problems.

I had a '94 YJ. The frame is rusted just as bad a the CJ's . The frame cracked at the front steering box, rear frame horns rusted away, and rust in places on the front fenders in places I've never seen on a CJ. (Same issue with the fenders on a TJ)

I get 16.4 mpg with my '05 rubicon, 11 with my '78 DD , with the 304. Id rather drive the CJ. No one ever asked "hey, what year is that TJ.

To much plastic, but the AC is kick a$$.

Personally I'd rather put dents and scratches on my $3000 CJ than my $16,000 Rubicon,

And what's up with the useless tail door on YJ's and TJ's ? There useless. I'll take a tailgate any day.

2 words> Dana 35!
Also the front axle doesn't have lockouts. This means the U-joints in the axle shafts and front drive shaft are turning whenever the Jeep is moving.

Hard tops.
The top on my '78 is nearly twice as thick as the '05. Even with these ribs it still vibrates at speed.

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Door latches. The paddles on a TJ are reversed on TJ hard doors. This is a pain. Think about it, you walk up with your key in your right hand to unlock the door, the left hand doesn't work as well to open the door.

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I drive this TJ 3 or 4 times a week, still not used to it.

Soft tops are nicer on a TJ .

Haha, what the heck are these for.

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The sticker is nice .

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Ask anyone with a TJ about fuel spraying from the filler when the auto stop shuts off from the nozzle. Ha, the only 2 fixes are a new tank (same issue down the road) or the filler tube from a S10 blazer.

So, TJ's aren't without their problems.

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