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Unread 07-30-2010, 11:55 AM   #16
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Thanks for continuing it on here for all to follow !!!!!!!

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Unread 07-30-2010, 01:52 PM   #17
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Dangit! I missed out on the opportunity to buy JScherb's SWEET Scrambler and now I missed the all famous Gaucho! Blast being in Germany for as long as I have! $8400 is a steal for that hand-crafted work of art. I have no doubt that Mopar will be "borrowing" his design ideas in the future. Monte, make us proud brother.

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Unread 07-30-2010, 03:56 PM   #18
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What was Jeff's original Idea for the Gaucho? Wasn't it something like make it close to the original with a few tasteful upgrades that they should've done at the factory?

I would keep with that logic, drop in a sensible engine 258, 4.0, 304, 360 something along those lines, t18 6.32, d20 and go with that. It would say along the lines of the vintage sort of, and be nice additions. I would also drop a TBI on there, except the 4.0 for obvious reasons.

That's just my take on it.
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Unread 07-30-2010, 04:23 PM   #19
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What was Jeff's original Idea for the Gaucho? Wasn't it something like make it close to the original with a few tasteful upgrades that they should've done at the factory?

I would keep with that logic, drop in a sensible engine 258, 4.0, 304, 360 something along those lines, t18 6.32, d20 and go with that. It would say along the lines of the vintage sort of, and be nice additions. I would also drop a TBI on there, except the 4.0 for obvious reasons.

That's just my take on it.
My original idea was to follow the lead of the original Gaucho, build something that was built the way the factory would have if they had built a stepside pickup, and along the way a make few improvements to some compromises they made in the construction of the original Gaucho. I wanted people's first impression of it to be "I didn't know Jeep made CJ pickups", not "wow, that's a cool custom", so I kept everything as "factory" as possible.

For example, the original used a 101" wheelbase CJ-6 frame (or the later 103" frame, I'm not 100% sure), which resulted in a cramped cab and bed - the rear fenders were forced to butt up against the back of the cab because the short frame made the bed too short. To improve on this I made the new Gaucho wheelbase 113.5". I also made the cab larger than the original, the new Gaucho cab is the same size as the Scrambler, and the original was a few inches shorter than that.

Sticking with the factory theme, when I built the frame, I kept everything stock, so that factory CJ-7/CJ-8 engines and running gear would bolt right up. Because of that, any conversion kits - engine mount adapters, lift kits, etc., that are designed to work on a stock CJ will work in the Gaucho, so there are lots and lots of bolt-in options Joe can choose from when it comes to engines, drivetrains and suspensions.

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Unread 07-30-2010, 09:23 PM   #20
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jest chimin' in 'cause i wanna get in on the ground floor of this one .ive been quitely following the build up of gaucho since i found it a few weeks ago now im ready to join the fun ,good luck monte whatever you do,we'll be watching!
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Unread 07-30-2010, 09:33 PM   #21
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yay im glad we i get to keep watching the build of this
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Unread 07-30-2010, 09:33 PM   #22
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and to jsherb,thanks for many hours of exiteing reading, i learned alot from watching you work,felt like we were all along with you,you seem like a real genuine nice guy with a great family life and a great shop.and as the kids say"mad skills",something we all can aspire to.good luck in you next project we'll be watching
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Unread 07-30-2010, 09:52 PM   #23
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(Waggy D44 and HD20 would be a good combo with a D300 IMHO).



im sorry call me a newbee,waggy? now familiar with that term.any help?
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Unread 07-30-2010, 09:54 PM   #24
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meant to say not familiar
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Unread 07-30-2010, 10:55 PM   #26
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(Waggy D44 and HD20 would be a good combo with a D300 IMHO).



im sorry call me a newbee,waggy? now familiar with that term.any help?
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Unread 07-31-2010, 07:32 AM   #27
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Hey Joe,

If you need any design drawings, just let me know and I'll try to do them for you.

Best of luck with the build, I'm sure you won't disappoint us!

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Jeff, thank you for the offer, I may take you up on it once I have a design plan.

It seems that the majority of you want to see an inline six or an AMC v8. I know the 4.0 well, and know it is an awesome motor and will last for hundreds of thousands of miles, but I am actually leaning towards a V8. I think that is what the Gaucho wants too. I have always been a Chevy fan, and that is what I was planning to use. They are plentiful, cheap, reliable, huge aftermarket support, and have basically been in production since the fifties. But after reading all of you pushing for 304s 360s 401s, I'm beginning to think about that option. My question to you is how plentiful, cheap, reliable are these? What kind of aftermarket support will I find with them? In 10, 15, 20 years, when I have motor trouble, will I find the parts as easily as I would the infamous Chevy 350?

Now I know I said I want Gaucho to look like it rolled out of Toledo, but using only AMC parts I think might be a bit much. I mean how many of you have modified your Jeeps with suspension lifts, engine/ tranny swaps, aftermarket bumpers, wheels/ tires, body armor, etc, and nobody would think twice that it didn't come off a Jeep assembly line. I'm not against any idea, ok I'm against a 4 cylinder. I think it is totally possible to build this Jeep to appear as if it came off an assembly line, but was modified somewhat by its owner through the years, if that makes any sense.
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Unread 07-31-2010, 07:34 AM   #28
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I personally like the idea of the 350, but as mentioned, you will receive some hate mail. I too am excited the continuation of this build will stay here on JF. Im sure you will do Jeff proud. I hope you can do all the pretty drawings Jeff can do too.

Anyway, best of luck with finishing this beauty.
At least I know this Devil Dog won't hate me if I use a 350. Semper Fi
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Unread 07-31-2010, 08:06 AM   #29
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My point to my previous post, is not to start a bitter AMC vs GM vs Ford war. My point is that Jeepers have been swapping components practically as long as there has been Jeeps. Its what we do to make the vehicle what we want. Here is a link to prove my point. Magazine Archive August 1964 Jeep Wagoneer | Four Wheeler Magazine Article at Automotive.com It is an article from Four Wheeler Magazine August 1964 showing a 289 Ford Cobra engine swap into a Jeep Wagoneer. And on top of that, it was performed by Brian Chuchua, the original creator of the Gaucho in 1976, at his shop in Southern California. It doesn't make it any less Jeep,IMHO.
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Unread 07-31-2010, 08:08 AM   #30
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