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Unread 01-09-2009, 09:02 PM   #1
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fuel injection here i come

today i finaly ripped the carb off my 83 and im in the market for throttle body injection.I have been told that the howell system is the way to go because it is california legal.There is a state web site that tells you if its legal or not and what useless parts that you can take off .....has anyone used a howell kit ....if so tell me whats good or bad thanks....

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Unread 01-09-2009, 10:25 PM   #2
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I never understood why CA would ***** about a more efficient EFI system being used in place of the BBD carb (mind you, I can tune the BBD in my sleep unless the vehicle has a rusty tank like my '82 Spirit)
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Unread 01-09-2009, 10:31 PM   #3
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Unread 01-09-2009, 10:34 PM   #4
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I never understood why CA would ***** about a more efficient EFI system being used in place of the BBD carb (mind you, I can tune the BBD in my sleep unless the vehicle has a rusty tank like my '82 Spirit)
It's not necessarily about efficiency as much as emissions. If it has more emissions, California won't allow it.

Nobody ever accused the State of being smart on this point. If they cared at all about efficiency or if they were actually intelligent about these things, they wouldn't limit the number of VW TDI's which can be sold in the State. They get 50 MPG but since they are diesel, the State wrote them off out of hand. They weren't even available in California from 2004 to 2007 or something...ridiculous.
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Unread 01-10-2009, 05:57 AM   #5
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Yeah Howell and the Mopar MPI kits are the only SMOG legal in CA. Though there are other solutions and some that may actually work better the State does not recognize them. This is purely financial they want to make their money testing California Air Resources Board (CARB) charges manufactures fortunes for their sticker which is a long drawn out process. Most smaller suppliers wont even go through the hassle.

In the end its all about money
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Unread 01-10-2009, 10:36 AM   #6
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I know a guy with the Howell system on a 304, ha had some problems with it at first, but its all worked out now.
I don't have any details on the problems because it was before I knew him
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