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post #16 of Old 02-09-2012, 04:03 PM
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post #17 of Old 02-09-2012, 04:17 PM
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The rubber spacer part # J5462447 is available at www.wholesalemopar.com. Unfortunately, the sleeve and other rubber spacer is not.
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post #18 of Old 02-09-2012, 05:08 PM
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If you can't find one, It looks like it would be fairly easy to make. Sometimes you have to fabricate your own, and when you do, it usually ends up being better quality than crap you can buy. I'd try the link that inovermyhead2 gave you as long as your sleeve and washer are good.

I'm not sure what tomorrow will bring, but it can't be any worse than what I've already been through.
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If you can't find one, It looks like it would be fairly easy to make. Sometimes you have to fabricate your own, and when you do, it usually ends up being better quality than crap you can buy. I'd try the link that inovermyhead2 gave you as long as your sleeve and washer are good.
I'll wait for a message from Keith, then McMaster-Carr then inovermyhead2 link.

Now there is a plan!

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I bought a polyurethane grill bushing from The Jeep Guy for 7.00.

http://www.the-jeep-guy.com/bushings.htm


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I bought a polyurethane grill bushing from The Jeep Guy for 7.00.

http://www.the-jeep-guy.com/bushings.htm

It's not good to mix rubber with poly.

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Huh?

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It is not good to mix poly body mounts with rubber mounts, they flex different. The mount under the grill supports the grill and front two fenders, the body mount underfront of the jeep supports the front of the tub, you would like them to flex in the same maner. Poly is very stiff.

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post #24 of Old 02-09-2012, 09:55 PM
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I experienced the same trouble you're having when I attempted to replace my front grill bushing a few months ago. I was fortunate enough to still have a tube/roll of body mount material from a fiberglass body swap many years ago. It's a very dense rubber-like material in roll with a hollow center to allow for body mount (sleeve) bushings and hardware (picture a roll of hard salami with a hollow center). The center hole in the roll accomodates the metal sleeve perfectly. Since it's a solid roll, you have to cut off each bushing whatever thickness you choose. You can cut it w/a hacksaw, but it's very difficult to get a straight cut that way. The best way is to go to a metal shop w/a band saw. It's like a hacksaw, but motorized, very stable/controlled and most importantly, cuts a straight line through even thick objects. I bought my roll in the early 90's, I'm pretty sure from 4WD Hardware, Columbiana, OH. Good luck.
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Glenn, those part numbers you have are incorrect as far as I know. They are for the more common body tub mounts and not the one for the grill. If you have a 1981-86 Jeep Parts Manual, look under the Cooling section to find the front grill mounts.
To add to the confusion, the parts manual list all the parts associated with the grill mount as washers and the exploded view doesn't make any sense either. They show a bolt coming in from the top with a nut at the bottom when we all know the nut is encapsulated in the grill and the bolt comes up through the bottom. I remember having a hard time sorting through the parts with NAPA here in Doylestown Pa and it took several attempts to get the correct parts that the parts manual list as all WASHERS.

When I get back from work today, I'll sort through my invoices for the parts so I have them in hand when I go to NAPA on Saturday.

I think this qualifies as the Blues Brothers have said, "We're on a mission from God".


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It is not good to mix poly body mounts with rubber mounts, they flex different. The mount under the grill supports the grill and front two fenders, the body mount underfront of the jeep supports the front of the tub, you would like them to flex in the same maner. Poly is very stiff.
I didn't suggest mixing and matching rubber with polyurethane, and I bet there are far more Jeep owners replacing the body mounts with polyurethane than rubber. Just providing a source for the bushing

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Glenn, those part numbers you have are incorrect as far as I know. They are for the more common body tub mounts and not the one for the grill. If you have a 1981-86 Jeep Parts Manual, look under the Cooling section to find the front grill mounts.
To add to the confusion, the parts manual list all the parts associated with the grill mount as washers and the exploded view doesn't make any sense either. They show a bolt coming in from the top with a nut at the bottom when we all know the nut is encapsulated in the grill and the bolt comes up through the bottom. I remember having a hard time sorting through the parts with NAPA here in Doylestown Pa and it took several attempts to get the correct parts that the parts manual list as all WASHERS.

When I get back from work today, I'll sort through my invoices for the parts so I have them in hand when I go to NAPA on Saturday.

I think this qualifies as the Blues Brothers have said, "We're on a mission from God".

Ok, I will wait for your responce from your NAPA. If you cannot get them any more, I will try mine, but if yours cannot get it then I'm sure mine cannot either.

I purchased my Parts Catalog off e-bay and have discovered it is incomplete. I do not have this section. Title reads 1981-1984 Jeep Parts Catalog 89 81 379 084 issued March 1984 Volume II group 12.00 thru Group 40.00. I think I will start looking for a complete set.

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I didn't suggest mixing and matching rubber with polyurethane, and I bet there are far more Jeep owners replacing the body mounts with polyurethane than rubber. Just providing a source for the bushing
I agree there seems to be many more people using poly over stock rubber. In fact the PO gave me a complete set of Poly body bushings when I purchased the Jeep. I just am not a fan of Poly. Thanks for the information.

I believe that I now have several options on how to end up with a rubber bushing up front.

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Glenn, the parts catalog is available online as a PDF. If you shoot me a PM with your email address I will send it to you.

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Glenn, the parts catalog is available online as a PDF. If you shoot me a PM with your email address I will send it to you.

Paul
I guess I am just to old, I find it really hard to use PDF files, I would rather flip through paper. Thanks

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I tried the part numbers provided by Keith at the local NAPA store and they were not available.

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