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Unread 12-29-2013, 07:10 PM   #16
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Don't know what to tell you then. Follow what the manual says.

I hope it works out for you.
Know nut'n about a '20'.
The "manual" on tow'n with a 300, is a joke. Made 'meany' a dollar off of folk that did what it it sez...........
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Unread 12-29-2013, 07:58 PM   #17
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Warn full float kit in the rear axle. Hook up the tow bar, (does not matter if the T-case or transmission is in gear) Unlock the rear hubs, hook up the wiring and haul butt.

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Unread 12-29-2013, 10:49 PM   #18
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This is my solution for now.





The trailer is borrowed, but have ordered a custom enclosed trailer for the same purpose. It will also be used to store the Jeep in winter months.

People tend to overestimate the cost of an enclosed trailer. It makes a great storage / temporary garage for a 1/3 the cost of building a garage
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Unread 12-30-2013, 06:00 AM   #19
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Warn full float kit in the rear axle. Hook up the tow bar, (does not matter if the T-case or transmission is in gear) Unlock the rear hubs, hook up the wiring and haul butt.

Yup, mentioned it in my first post.

Wish I could get one at a decent price.
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Unread 12-30-2013, 06:01 AM   #20
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This is my solution for now.





The trailer is borrowed, but have ordered a custom enclosed trailer for the same purpose. It will also be used to store the Jeep in winter months.

People tend to overestimate the cost of an enclosed trailer. It makes a great storage / temporary garage for a 1/3 the cost of building a garage
Nice, but not an option for me.
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Unread 12-30-2013, 06:59 AM   #21
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Warn full float kit in the rear axle. Hook up the tow bar, (does not matter if the T-case or transmission is in gear) Unlock the rear hubs, hook up the wiring and haul butt.
Unfortunately, I think that kit is no longer available for the 20.

For the record, I've flat-towed my CJ, per the manual's instructions, for almost 50K miles, and I've never "burned up" my D300. In fact, it didn't even need new seals when I recently had it off. I simply cleaned it up, stuck it back on, and filled it back up with fluid.

That said, I've decided that disconnecting the rear DS is an easy bit of peace of mind, so I've started doing so on longer hauls.

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Unread 12-30-2013, 10:08 AM   #22
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GlennLever, Where's the spare for the trailer?
I had that same F'lite. Pretty good trailer.
Also, you shouldn't cross the tiedowns. That will allow the load to rock side to side.
Also, attach TD's to the frame. There are oval cutouts in the outside of the frame dehind the rear wheels.
I would also add at least 1 grade 70 binder (5/16-3/8") chain to the rear tiedown.
I have transported heavy-equipment for 20+ yrs. Please trust me on this.


Does Warn even still make that full-floater kit?

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Unread 12-30-2013, 10:11 AM   #23
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Does Warn even still make that full-floater kit? LG
As I mentioned in my post before yours, no, they don't.

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Unread 12-30-2013, 10:19 AM   #24
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Unfortunately, I think that kit is no longer available for the 20.
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Your statement, sure sounded like you weren't sure.
FWIW: I do believe that Warn can't even support those kits with parts.
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I flat towed my 1990 YJ and I had a wheel bearing failure on the front driver side and it put my 02 4 dr duramax side ways on the highway in a slide not a good time. With that wheel unlocked that you have to do to turn and if you have a blow out or anything in the front goes it turns the wheels hold on..
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Unread 12-30-2013, 10:24 AM   #26
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I flat towed my 1990 YJ and I had a wheel bearing failure on the front driver side and it put my 02 4 dr duramax side ways on the highway in a slide not a good time. With that wheel unlocked that you have to do to turn and if you have a blow out or anything in the front goes it turns the wheels hold on..
That can/will/does happen with any type of trailer.
BTDT.
One of the reasons that commercial fuel and Class 1.1 trailers have bearing temp sensors.
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GlennLever, Where's the spare for the trailer?
I had that same F'lite. Pretty good trailer.
Also, you shouldn't cross the tiedowns. That will allow the load to rock side to side.
Also, attach TD's to the frame. There are oval cutouts in the outside of the frame dehind the rear wheels.
I would also add at least 1 grade 70 binder (5/16-3/8") chain to the rear tiedown.
I have transported heavy-equipment for 20+ yrs. Please trust me on this.


Does Warn even still make that full-floater kit?

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State law requires them to be crossed here.

I do not strap to a suspended part of the chassis, the strap would take all the stress of the bouncing jeep as it goes down the road (to the point on a good upward thrust from a pot hole the strap could actual unhook), when strapped to the axle there is no give and the strap tension remains the same.

Heavy equipment has no suspension give other than the tires.

Spare tire for the trailer in in the basement of the Coach, along with the jack and tools

(level one CDL-A Tanker Trainer with signoff responsibilities)
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Does Warn even still make that full-floater kit?

LG
Nobody has for years and that's why I referred to it as Unobtanium in my original post.

One or 2 may pop up from time to time as a barn find or something but then there is the issue of not being able to get replacement parts.

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Unread 12-30-2013, 11:15 AM   #29
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State law requires them to be crossed here.

I do not strap to a suspended part of the chassis, the strap would take all the stress of the bouncing jeep as it goes down the road (to the point on a good upward thrust from a pot hole the strap could actual unhook), when strapped to the axle there is no give and the strap tension remains the same.

Heavy equipment has no suspension give other than the tires.

Spare tire for the trailer in in the basement of the Coach, along with the jack and tools

(level one CDL-A Tanker Trainer with signoff responsibilities)
Can't believe that NY makes you cross straps due to strap wear etc.
What I have done to reduce such wear is to slide a section of fire hose over the straps where they rub.
Many HE tires are filled with steel pellets for weight, and they do make a great anchor weight.
(CDL-A with all endorsements, holder for over 30+ years)
HAZ-MAT sure is a pain to keep these dayz...
Glenn, may I ask what section in you NY regs require this?
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Unread 12-30-2013, 11:35 AM   #30
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Can't believe that NY makes you cross straps due to strap wear etc.
What I have done to reduce such wear is to slide a section of fire hose over the straps where they rub.
Many HE tires are filled with steel pellets for weight, and they do make a great anchor weight.
(CDL-A with all endorsements, holder for over 30+ years)
HAZ-MAT sure is a pain to keep these dayz...
Glenn, may I ask what section in you NY regs require this?
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I have the covers, but where the straps cross they do not actually touch

Cannot answer that, was stopped and told to cross them or be cited

The 150 dollars for the background check for Haz Mat is a pain, and I have to get the physical yearly as I am type 2 diabetic and they will only issue for one year, I also have all the endorsements but never took the road test for over 16 passengers.
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