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Unread 12-29-2013, 08:27 AM   #1
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Flat towing my CJ

So here's the deal, I plan on flat towing my CJ with my currie tow bar and shackles but just want to throw this out there to see if anyone has any suggestions or sees something, or knows something I'm missing.

85 CJ, T18/D300, AMC 20 rear end. (And let's please not turn this into a bashing 20 thread)

Set up like this I have to drop the rear DS before flat towing and that is such a PITA. I know there were several companies that made full floater kits with lockout hubs but those are like Unobtainium at this point. Any suggestions? I had thought of possibly swapping out the D300 for a 20 but really like my lower gear set in the 300. BTW, both my 300 and T18 are in needs of a rebuild since both are leaking pretty good right now.

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Unread 12-29-2013, 08:36 AM   #2
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I had sort of the same question and started this thread

Flat towing / tow bar /CJ-7 with Dana 300 Transfer case

the link is

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f8/fl...-case-1569482/

One of the suggestions was to put the transfer case in neural and unlock the hubs, but that was quickly shot down. It was also pointed out that the FSM says you can do it.

I have made the decision to purchase a trailer to tow mine.
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So here's the deal, I plan on flat towing my CJ with my currie tow bar and shackles but just want to throw this out there to see if anyone has any suggestions or sees something, or knows something I'm missing.

85 CJ, T18/D300, AMC 20 rear end. (And let's please not turn this into a bashing 20 thread)

Set up like this I have to drop the rear DS before flat towing and that is such a PITA. I know there were several companies that made full floater kits with lockout hubs but those are like Unobtainium at this point. Any suggestions? I had thought of possibly swapping out the D300 for a 20 but really like my lower gear set in the 300. BTW, both my 300 and T18 are in needs of a rebuild since both are leaking pretty good right now.

Any suggestions?
I must say that a thread on flat towing is like sitting on the roof of a barn in a thunderstorm holding an 8' copper rod up into the sky....

However, This is what the 4X4/driveline shop told me when I asked the same question in preparation to an elk hunt. I was going to flat tow my '83 CJ5 T176/D300/D30/AMC20 combo about 350 miles round trip. It is stock in setup, no lift or clocked TC.

1. Transfer case in neutral.
2. Transmission in neutral.
3. Front hubs locked
4. Steering wheel unlocked. (very important if you want to ever turn)

I have towed my CJ the maximum of about 650 mile round trip (from Tucson, AZ to Seligman, AZ for a pronghorn hunt) and I try not to go faster than 55-60 MPH as that feels the most comfortable and safe for me.
Obviously the safest, least intrusive way to tow would be on a trailer, but that just isn't in the budget. Flat towing with the rear drive shaft disconnected assures you that nothing will burn up or prematurely wear out, but you have to crawl under and reattach said driveshaft. To each his own, what ever works for you. God bless and Happy New Year.
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Unread 12-29-2013, 01:44 PM   #4
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I had sort of the same question and started this thread

Flat towing / tow bar /CJ-7 with Dana 300 Transfer case

the link is

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f8/fl...-case-1569482/

One of the suggestions was to put the transfer case in neural and unlock the hubs, but that was quickly shot down. It was also pointed out that the FSM says you can do it.

I have made the decision to purchase a trailer to tow mine.
One of the suggestions was to put the transfer case in neural and unlock the hubs, but that was quickly shot down. It was also pointed out that the FSM says you can do it.

I have made the decision to purchase a trailer to tow mine.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the link, very helpful.

I didn't know about keeping the front locked in to provide for some oil flow. Hadn't thought about clocking helping with the oiling as well. Thinking I will go the clocking route along with locking the front hubs to provide for oiling while leaving the rear DS in place as that seems to be the ticket. My <150 mile tow to my wheeling spot should be fine I figure.

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I have towed my '7' all over the western USA for almost 29 years.
It takes me at most 5 minutes to drop just the rear DS and hang it under neath
and wrap the u-joint caps with ele. tape so they don't fall off.
I carry a set of tools in the jeep just for this.......
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I disconnect the ds as well. Really does only take 5 minutes. The peace of mind is worth 5 minutes.
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This came to mind yesterday in thinking of the difference between old and new technology.
My wife just bought a honda CRV AWD with an automatic.
Honda has a procedure to flat tow them for up to 8 hours, warm up, run the transmission through set up in a certain way, shut it off and tow.
No worries of damage, warranty. No disconnecting.
Sigh.

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Here's a good link LG found for me when I asked about my Dana 18.

http://www.visualsc.com/jeep_flat_towing.pdf
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Here's a good link LG found for me when I asked about my Dana 18.

http://www.visualsc.com/jeep_flat_towing.pdf
Thank you!
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I have towed my '7' all over the western USA for almost 29 years.
It takes me at most 5 minutes to drop just the rear DS and hang it under neath
and wrap the u-joint caps with ele. tape so they don't fall off.
I carry a set of tools in the jeep just for this.......
LG
Ya, have done it that way for years as well but not so inclined to do that anymore. Especially since there's a lot more mud and water where I wheel now. I hate crawling around under a muddy Jeep in the rain to do this. Thanks for your input.
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Here's a good link LG found for me when I asked about my Dana 18.

http://www.visualsc.com/jeep_flat_towing.pdf

Thanks for sharing though I couldn't help but notice :

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(CJ2A, CJ3A, CJ3B, CJ5, CJ7 and newer)
Disclaimer: This information has been gathered from various unverified sources and may contain errors. Jeep owners should exercise due diligence to verify the actual transfer case installed in their Jeeps and the
capability to flat tow. The best source for this is the Owners Manual and/or OEM Service Manual (see comments about transmission).



So, gathered from unverified sources? May contain errors?
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I have lost count of the number of 300s I have seen 'smoked' when folks followed AMC's towing protocol.
I would rather crawl under a wet/mudy Jeep to disconnect a DS that to R&R a burnt-up t'case.
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Thanks for sharing though I couldn't help but notice :

Willys / Jeep Flat Towing
(CJ2A, CJ3A, CJ3B, CJ5, CJ7 and newer)
Disclaimer: This information has been gathered from various unverified sources and may contain errors. Jeep owners should exercise due diligence to verify the actual transfer case installed in their Jeeps and the
capability to flat tow. The best source for this is the Owners Manual and/or OEM Service Manual (see comments about transmission).



So, gathered from unverified sources? May contain errors?
Don't know what to tell you then. Follow what the manual says.

I hope it works out for you.
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I have lost count of the number of 300s I have seen 'smoked' when folks followed AMC's towing protocol.
I would rather crawl under a wet/mudy Jeep to disconnect a DS that to R&R a burnt-up t'case.
LG
I understand there are a lot of transmissions smoked because the manual recommends that it also be put in neutral.
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Unread 12-29-2013, 07:39 PM   #15
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I have lost count of the number of 300s I have seen 'smoked' when folks followed AMC's towing protocol.
I would rather crawl under a wet/mudy Jeep to disconnect a DS that to R&R a burnt-up t'case.
LG
I hear you. Looking at options.

Just looking at options. What are your thoughts on flat towing with the D20 xfercase? I like the gear reduction of the 300 but mine needs a rebuild anyways. Thinking of maybe going with a 20 if its better for towing.

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