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Unread 08-16-2013, 10:15 AM   #61
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I've seen even 4wd tubs vary quite a bit.

Compared to jdarq tub, mines pretty good.
I've got the front mounts and no flex at all up front.

Seems to be a magnet for carts, tractors and pickups that have rolled into it over the years. nary a scratch.

Finish was great but the person I got it from was a great body man. Maybe he did something with it.

Only problem I have is the lengthened rocker height were it doesn't match the fender well. and the curvature of the left rear corner. Made for problems fitting Bestop Supertop.

I did see some FG tubs with one wall were stepping into tub would flex it. You could grab the door opening and flex it /
Maybe that is were they got their bad rep.

Only other problem is No drain plugs. Turns into a big wash tub in a rain storm and have to bail out the water...

I had thought about painting rust onto the FG tub so my fellow jeepers don't scorn me...

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Unread 08-16-2013, 10:47 AM   #62
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I am not picking on holliewood because this is a common philosophy behind steel vs glass and it simply cracks me up and is funny as hell and the first example of it in this discussion.

If I wheeled any vehicle in the woods or on the rocks and body damage was even remotely possible, I would not not give a rats *** what it looked like including dents, scratches, rust, dents or holes. So the cheapest option would prevail, a rusty steel body would be tub of choice.

I just can't see smacking trees as relevent.
I would have to agree. And as far as the comment about "mall crawlers, sand dunes, or mud boggers"...
I ran solid motor mounts for years, with the cage only tied into the frame in the front, and bolted to the body in the rear.
The amount of flex/abuse/stress put on my fiberglass body over the years has been A LOT.
But on the other hand, I have seen very weak fiberglass bodies too (as John mentions above).
But just because it's a fiberglass unit, don't think it doesn't get abused
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Unread 08-18-2013, 08:22 PM   #63
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No flex in my glass tub, even before I rebuilt it, and I would wheel it anywhere I chose to wheel it. Properly laid glass is very strong. If you think it will explode when you rub up against a tree, you are wrong. My tub did not have the rear-most body mounts, and I had to build those. It was an earlier model tub, and I had to make some mods to the frame-to-body mounts in the middle. It didn't just "go on". No way it could have and been properly mounted. I have no idea what brand it is. I would rather modify aftermarket glass than aftermarket steel. Heating and cooling steel brings another set of problems to the table. Once you figure it out, it isn't a big deal. But the same applies to glass... once you figure it out. There is a learning curve to both models. If you've never had a glass tub, and if you have never repaired or modded a glass tub, you cannot speak intelligently about it. We need comments from Jeepers who have that experience... the good and bad experiences.
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Unread 08-19-2013, 12:40 AM   #64
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Only thing I can say about mine other than that was the main reason I bought it - it had the glass tub and fenders and was in good shape - is that I have jackknifed it with my M416, and it broke the side marker light and bent the handle on the corner of the trailer. I heard a crunch, thought I was going to have a large hole, but I only have a light scratch in the gelcoat. I have drove it daily for the past 5 years, wheeled it a few times, and used it for yard work. I have a crack in the paint along the front where the cowl meets the part going up to the windshield. It is a double walled tub. Not certain on mfgr.

My uncle many years ago swapped a 'glass tub onto his early '7, and when he saw my 78 tub he was impressed with how much better it was made than his was, it was a single walled 4WDH version since that was all that was offered back in the early 80's. He never really did more than DD it, maybe some yard work. I guess it held up well, until the kid he sold it to wrapped it around a phone pole because he couldn't responsibly handle the 327 power in it.
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Unread 08-19-2013, 04:27 AM   #65
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As we all know. I love my FG tub but I just saw the ONLY way steel is better than FG.

Fire!

With steel you will have a tub left. Maybe even reusable if fire wasn't that bad. With fiberglass, you will just have a pile of glass strands.

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John,

I don't know this for fact but I bet that tub will require a full coat of filler to smooth out the waves from the heat.

I guess there is room for a hybrid tub <<< plastic coated steel
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Unread 08-19-2013, 11:53 PM   #67
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As we all know. I love my FG tub but I just saw the ONLY way steel is better than FG.

Fire!

With steel you will have a tub left. Maybe even reusable if fire wasn't that bad. With fiberglass, you will just have a pile of glass strands.

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Fire? never thought about that. Does heat affect FG tubs much?

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Fire? never thought about that. Does heat affect FG tubs much?
Only when it gets to the flash point!
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Unread 08-21-2013, 12:43 AM   #70
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Kinda like burning a ping pong ball....
Here is a test :

See if you can figure out what parts are/were fiberglass and what parts are steel...



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Is a body lift mandatory with the 4WD tub?
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Is a body lift mandatory with the 4WD tub?
The way the body is designed and the thickness of the floors, it equates to about 1" of body lift. I will add that it is perfect spacing and I'd probably still add 1" if the body wasn't designed this way. I don't know how non 4wd tubs mount, but I'd assume similarly?

I went with the minimum body mount height necessary when installing and am 100% happy with the added clearance between the tub and gas tank, frame rails, etc. It was VERY helpful when installing last pieces after the tub was installed. Without it I would have had to have dropped the gas tank to install rear seat and vent hose clamp. It also helps clear my 33"s with 3" lift.
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I like fiberglass too

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The way the body is designed and the thickness of the floors, it equates to about 1" of body lift. I will add that it is perfect spacing and I'd probably still add 1" if the body wasn't designed this way. I don't know how non 4wd tubs mount, but I'd assume similarly?

I went with the minimum body mount height necessary when installing and am 100% happy with the added clearance between the tub and gas tank, frame rails, etc. It was VERY helpful when installing last pieces after the tub was installed. Without it I would have had to have dropped the gas tank to install rear seat and vent hose clamp. It also helps clear my 33"s with 3" lift.
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