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post #46 of 64 Old 05-15-2013, 12:43 PM
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I would say you can go with the best of both worlds scenario here.

Family cage and front cage, but not all the way tied in to the floor... this will allow for opening/closing the windows, hard doors, dash pad will still fit... and if you want, you can get the tie ins that go behind and down the pillars and then into the frame.



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it gives a little more protection in the rear as well with the spreader bar for the young uns.



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post #47 of 64 Old 05-15-2013, 12:45 PM
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Modified it a little to still use the dash grab handle



All in all, I used a YJ windshield as well so I used the YJ kit from Rockhard4x4 and used the spreader bars from the family cage to the YJ windshield.

I used YJ windshield wipers as well, which is a slight improvement over CJ.

Yes, this is not a vintage, mint, OEM, NOS, etc. etc. CJ, but it is taken out in the woods and enjoyed! I just used some "improvements" IMO to help get me to where I wanted to be.

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post #48 of 64 Old 05-15-2013, 01:00 PM
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I like that a lot ^^^^^

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I was thinking about doing something similar with the tube clamps to make a removable angled cross brace between the B pillars. That way I could still utilize the seat. Also put one behind the backseat between the down tubes, if it would fit.

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I used YJ windshield wipers as well, which is a slight improvement over CJ.
What is different about their wipers? Curious.

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post #50 of 64 Old 05-15-2013, 02:28 PM
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I like the set up but, if it were mine i would weld those bars in rather than bolt in with the clamps. The reason is, I have seen those clamps slide and break during a roll over though, it did do what it was intended to by lessening the dammage to the vehicle and the occupants. The fact is it still failed and could have gone a whole lot further south. Now please don't get me wrong that is a great set up for some mild wheeling and a great improvement over the factory rollbar. IMO if you are going to attempt to strengthen the cage, rollbar whatever you wish to call it, go ahead and weld it in just to reduce to chance of failure.

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Modified it a little to still use the dash grab handle
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Where did you get the tub/dash connection brackets?
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Where did you get the tub/dash connection brackets?

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...........so I used the YJ kit from Rockhard4x4......
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I would say you can go with the best of both worlds scenario here.

Family cage and front cage, but not all the way tied in to the floor... this will allow for opening/closing the windows, hard doors, dash pad will still fit... and if you want, you can get the tie ins that go behind and down the pillars and then into the frame.



Visors even work too



it gives a little more protection in the rear as well with the spreader bar for the young uns.



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post #55 of 64 Old 05-16-2013, 06:46 AM
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OK... so I had a few PM's asking me if I build these things locally, would I ship, etc.

I used the YJ kit from rockhard4x4 (mentioned above).
I used the YJ kit because I have a 1995 Wrangler tub on my 1978 CJ7.
I used a YJ windshield, so when talking to the guys they said the YJ kit would be the way to go as it uses the existing spreader bars that go and bolt to the windshield.

The CJ kit does not. It loops down in front of the windshield and doesn't attach to it.

So, I can't put down my windshield without a bit of a hassle now... up top bolts and the dash bolts. so, like 8 bolts in all, and they are allen heads, so yeah, I don't go through the hassle all that much.

As for welding it together, yes that is an option, but as for sliding, I don't think that would/could happen the way it is all put together. It is a tight/snug fit to get this all together and once assembled, you really feel how tight this thing is and how it stiffens up the Jeep tremendously. Trust me, I am not banking on anything in a car to save my life, for when your time is up, it is up. This just helps give a little more protection for what I am using it for.

One last thing... the kit is somewhat pricey, but if you were to get the steel and tools to do it yourself, you would be at that price definitely. If you get someone to build it for you, it will cost you a bit as well. Steel prices and labor and tools... it all adds up. I went with what I thought was best and so far so good.

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Don't know what kind of pricing other areas have, but around here, a cage, or 'sport cage', custom-built off the stock roll bar is 1000 or less.

There's no way you can buy a bender, the software to use it, and build your own for that, and I don't think any of the store-bought cages are as good...and not sure if they are even significantly cheaper. And having it built specifically for your Jeep allows it to be tailored to exactly what you want.

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I too like the look of the classic CJ7 roll bar but needed rear shoulder belts for the kiddos. I went with the full rock hard roll cage and welded in rear sholder belt attach points. I painted mine black but left the original roll bar red so it keeps most of the stock look. With this setup you get a solid front cage, grab handles for front passengers and it only take four bolts to put the windshield down which I do on almost every trail ride.


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post #58 of 64 Old 05-16-2013, 10:47 AM
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I forgot to add that when I got a CJ for parts, someone had swapped in a YJ cage in that... and it had a sound bar in it... so... I just took it and it bolted right in to the spreader bars... very nice addition to have tunes overhead.



Just another thing you can do if you have the spreader bars... I guess this would work on 87-92 sport bar models as well, not sure, but it might work.

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Home made family cage. Frame tied at A and C. Has seats tied to cage, not tub/frame. No separation anxiety!







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post #60 of 64 Old 05-16-2013, 12:57 PM
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ahhh, the CJ5... another reason I would like the dash plates vs. all the way to the floor.

I have a custom roll cage in my CJ5 and it is a PITA getting my big size 13's in/out with boots on and the roll bar.



The dash plate would allow more room for my feet in the CJ5, not as much of a concern in the CJ7.

I love my 5, but getting in/out is sometimes a PITA.
I don't wheel it much at all, so the need isn't really there to have one, but it is nice knowing you have something.

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