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Unread 01-28-2013, 08:55 PM   #1
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Fair price for 304

I am thinking about selling my 304. It was running when I pulled it out, stock everything, mc2100 carb? I have looked on ebay but there were not many to compare against.

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Unread 01-28-2013, 08:59 PM   #2
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Depends on mileage and any aftermarket parts on it.
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Unread 01-28-2013, 09:09 PM   #3
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I rebuilt it six years ago but can't claim to have done a stellar job as it was my first one. About 20,000 miles or less with no aftermarket stuff on it.
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Unread 01-28-2013, 11:08 PM   #4
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May I ask why the sale? How complete? Are all ancilliaries included..ie P.S./Alt/brackets/manifolds etc? Pics may help. Also don't rule out the AMC forums.
Good luck, and I hope you find it a nice home.
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I just listed mine on Ebay. I ground off the 304 casting on the block. Then I Dremel carved 401 out of a little 2x4 and filled it w/JB weld. Painted it all up nice. Was that a wrong thing to do?
OK, that last part was BS. But it is the type thing that happens to ME!
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Unread 01-29-2013, 08:44 AM   #5
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I am swapping in a 302 while I am in the process of a frame off.
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Unread 01-29-2013, 08:46 AM   #6
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Power steering pump, alt, intake manifold, carb, everything but exhaust business.
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Unread 01-29-2013, 09:00 AM   #7
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The "first-time rebuild" part would concern me a little, only because I recently did the same thing and I know how easy it is to miss something.

How was it running when you pulled it? Was it burning any oil? Any leaks?

Also, you say it's "stock everything", but it's got a non-factory carb, so I assume a non-factory breather, as well. I would also wager most, or all, of the emissions systems have been stripped.

All of these things factor into the price, along with regional market value. Around here, I'd probably shoot for $800, and be happy with $650, if it's a decent runner.

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Unread 01-29-2013, 09:14 AM   #8
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Hutch's casting mod should help


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Unread 01-29-2013, 09:35 AM   #9
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Usually if you can't hear it run, it goes for core prices. A savvy buyer will want to check the compression, look at the oil pressure, and hear it run. If I could not hear it run, I would pull the dipstick and look at the oil, look at the spark plugs, and turn it over by hand. But it's still a core.

Look at an engine rebuilder like Jasper or Autozone and see how much the core charge is for that engine. As a WAG, I'd guess it's ca $150-200. Or check what the local pick-and-pull charges for engines. Typically you get less than what a yard would charge when you sell private party, unless it's an exotic engine (a 304 is not).
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Unread 01-29-2013, 12:26 PM   #10
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Since 304s are as common as 360s, thus worth about 75% as much. I HATE to be the guy that says ya shoulda sold it when it was running. And if it was a stick, the exhaust manifolds would bring almost $200! Got receipts?
Maybe offer a LIMITED warranty? Just that the oil pressure/rings sealing id OK?
Sounds like ya may wanna part it out?
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Unread 01-29-2013, 12:40 PM   #11
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I'd think a 360 would be more common. They are around here anyway. BTW, where can you get $200 for manifolds? I have a set on my old 304.

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Unread 01-29-2013, 02:02 PM   #12
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The 360s are more common - due to the long life of the Wagoneer. It's hard to say which is more desirable though. The cheapest hop-up for a 304 is to replace it with a 360, and a lot of people do.

Didn't mean to be a downer about the engine but it's true - you'll get more if you can run it. Don't know where you are in your swap; maybe you can improvise an engine stand for buyers, or set it in the chassis and run it.
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Unread 01-29-2013, 02:16 PM   #13
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The fact that a prospective buyer can't hear it run makes it a builder, as said.
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Unread 01-29-2013, 02:37 PM   #14
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kappa,

Don't let these grumpy old farts discourage you.

If you can find the right buyer, and you are honestly convinced your engine runs well (perhaps offer a money back return if it doesn't run), I think you'll get more than some of these curmudgeons think.

BTW, I sold my old 258, with 98K original miles on it, for $800, complete from fan to flywheel. The buyer, a 4x4 shop owner, didn't even ask to see the video I took of it running before I pulled it.

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Unread 01-29-2013, 03:43 PM   #15
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I recently sold a running 304 with all brackets and power steering pump for $400. I did not let the flu wheel go with it as I had to use it for rebuilt engine that I installed. Also factor in it was a friend. I offered it to him for $350. He countered with $500. We settled at $400.
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