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Unread 02-17-2013, 10:29 AM   #1
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F150 302 swap

I am in the process of a frame off restoration. Planned mods during the frame off include:
96 f150 5L engine swap (keeping fuel injection)
Rear disc brake upgrade
Old man emu yj 2.5 springs

I ordered the engine mount from Novak and got it mocked up in the frame last night. Placed the tub and grille/radiator to check for clearances.

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Unread 02-17-2013, 10:37 AM   #2
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The body is resting directly on the body mounts with no bushings, should have plenty of clearance for the hood with a 1 inch body lift. We advanced the engine/tranny/transfer case into the furthest tranny mount holes in the skid plate. This gave us plenty of firewall clearance but made the front driveshaft a tad to long for the current suspension. The OME swap may take care of this but we will find out. I used the the bell housing from a 80 f250 manual transmission and did not have to trim my output shaft to get all bolted up. For the engine mounts I was able to use the stock engine mount holes for the new Novak brackets.
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Unread 02-17-2013, 12:13 PM   #3
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I will be very interested in following this post. I have a 302 sitting around and have been a little worried about it fitting in my 72 CJ5. Keep the pics and details coming, looking good.
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Unread 02-17-2013, 12:32 PM   #4
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Let me know if you need any specific measurements. I am going to strip everything out and send the frame to the blasters.
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Unread 02-17-2013, 06:08 PM   #5
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definitely document the mount positions for the 302. What tranny and TC are you using. Mine is an older 302 and I'm not sure whether to use it or go down the AMC 360 or SBC 350 route so will be watching this post with great interest. Document as much as you can for us spectators. I've seen a few of these 302 conversions but not read extensively yet other than to know it's a bit more problematic than the AMC or chevy swaps. Great to see this.
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Unread 02-17-2013, 06:51 PM   #6
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I am keeping my t176 and Dana 300. The motor mount positions will probably be different for you. From what I have read about using the truck 302 is that they have a taller intake and hood clearance is an issue with most of the other mounts. The ones from Novak have a serious amount of variability in where it can be placed.
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Unread 02-17-2013, 07:33 PM   #7
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I'll be watching this build. Like to see the Ford engine swaps. I'm putting a 351W in my '80 CJ5 but have a long way to go. See my build thread... may find some ideas in it.
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Unread 02-17-2013, 09:17 PM   #8
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I am more than familiar with your build thread comm64. Great work and yes I plan piggybacking some of your stuff. I have an 80 cj5 as well. I will be using a manual clutch linkage along with a few other minor differences.
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Unread 02-19-2013, 08:37 AM   #9
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I'm curious. Did you already have the 302? If not, wondering why you didn't go with a 351W?
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Unread 02-19-2013, 10:47 AM   #10
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The only engine I could find locally running was the truck one. I looked for a 351 as well as one from a mustang but they just are not around. I don't require a huge amount of hp so the truck engine will suffice. This will be used mainly for fly fishing and hunting more of an overland style.
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Honestly I think a truck engine would be more suited anyways, as a truck would require more torque at a lower speed than a Mustang. That is the reasoning behind the taller upper plenum. I don't see myself revving up over 4k, where Mustangs would more likely be playing...
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I am more than familiar with your build thread comm64. Great work and yes I plan piggybacking some of your stuff. I have an 80 cj5 as well. I will be using a manual clutch linkage along with a few other minor differences.
Thanks Dude!
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The engine wiring harness requires a mustang computer (ECM). This will change performance characteristics.
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I should clarify that my engine is obd 2 compliant which is fairly complicated. I am going to use an rjm engine harness and mustang computer to keep the fuel injection and "downgrade" my diagnostics yo obd 1 for simplicity. The harness requires a mustang computer.
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Finally had some time to work on the jeep. Have been sick, then sick baby, then the best reason......fishing. Here are a few pics from our trip.
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