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post #1 of 13 Old 01-25-2012, 07:58 PM Thread Starter
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ford engine to jeep trans question

i have been searching and searching, trying to verify what i thought i had read once many many moons ago.

does a ford 302 bolt to a tf999 auto trans? i have always wanted a 302 in my jeep, i love that engine and have had it in many ford vehicles. i currently have an 87 wrangler with 4.x engine and tf999 tranny and have the chance to get an 86 mustang gt carb'd 302 or an 87 bronco fuel injected ho 302. i know the fuel injected motor is the more powerful better gas mileage motor but since i am already set up for a carb, its easier to just drop a carb'd motor in but i don;t know if the 302 bolts to the tf999.

my jeep is totally stock minus the motor being odd, a 4.0 block and 4.2 head. everything else is dead stock and i plan to keep it that way because i don;t do off roading as its all sand where i live, on the gulf of mexico and i likve my jeep with almost no rust.


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post #2 of 13 Old 01-25-2012, 08:13 PM
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I am 99.99% sure it is not a bolt up, but it can be adapted. One of the best sources of info for these kinds of questions is the novak site. Do a little reading and you will get your answer and a whole lot more. Go to the library of knowledge section.

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they do not list the tf999 on their site

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nor does advanced adapters.

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I didn't know that, cause I have never looked for it. I used a NP435 out of an F-250 in mine and in researching which bell housing to use there was never any in that indicated a Ford bell housing would work. I am running an AMC 360 which has the same bolt pattern as an AMC 258, therefore if a Ford bell housing wouldn't work on my 360 it wont work on a 258, so a Ford pattern is different, so by that relationship I have to assume the TF999 on the back of you 258 will not fit a Ford pattern. I have always been a horsepower guy so I have very little experience with Ford or AMC for that matter.

There are a number of guys on here running SBFs so when they show up to blast me, maybe they will offer input on your question, you might also change the title of the thread to draw them in.

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Does Novak list any info for a TF727? They are, with respect to bolt patterns and such, essentially the same transmission. Assuming it's a jeep 727 and not from something else like a scout

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The bolt patterns are different between the TF999 and the 302. Novak do adapters for the 302 to Jeep transmissions but not specifically to the Jeep autos.

The later YJ had the same engines etc. so do not restrict your search to CJ solutions.

Best bet is to drop a line to Novak, they would know.

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Yes sir, mine is a yj but there is less info regarding the tf999 with my group then with you guys as I find people saying it will and people saying no on that end. I am just trying to get a solid definitive yes or no before I buy a 302 for my jeep and then get stuck not being able to easily drop it in.

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The Ford bellhousing pattern is completely different than the AMC pattern. Unless you can find an adapter to make it work, it will not.

Ford bellhousing pattern:



AMC bellhousing:


Novak and Advance will list a part if they have it. Don't see it listed, then it doesn't exist.
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You could swap the whole drivetrain from the bronco...either option is not going to be easy or cheap.
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You could do a 302 with a C4 and dana 300 or a 302 with C4 and Dana 20. There are adaptors to mate anything you want.

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dang guys, ruining my 302 dream. i am trying to find the guys in the yj section with the 302s and see how they are bolted up.

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and, to maybe modify my dream to something easier to accomplish, any of the old amc v8s will swap in then, just need to do motor mounts and cooling system then, huh?

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