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Unread 06-11-2013, 10:24 AM   #1
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Engine start

I've had the battery dead for about 5 days and I've been working on different things under it. Had to replace the battery because it wouldn't turn over or take a jump. Installed an inline battery cutoff thinking that something is draining on the battery. New battery, engine cranks and fires once but will not start. I put some starter fluid in, same thing. Last night the carb puffed white smoke. Any ideas? I haven't touched any of the starting pieces?

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Unread 06-11-2013, 11:40 AM   #2
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The fan belt was not wide enough and was screeching. Is it possible that turning the engine over somehow caused a timing issue?
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Unread 06-11-2013, 01:13 PM   #3
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Run a wire from the POS(+)side of your battery to the POS(+)side of your coil.
Try start'n it. IF it's starts now, you have a bad IGN. switch i'll bet
As per the battery drain. I bet it's via your alt.
Disconnect the alt, and reconnect the battery and let it sit for a few days. AFTER you fully recharge the battery.
NEVER let a dead/flat battery sit as batteries have a memory.......
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Unread 06-11-2013, 02:03 PM   #4
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I ran positive battery to positive coil an all it did was turn over and never sounded like it had fuel. Without that jumper it tries to crank with fuel...you can hear ignition trying to take place?
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Unread 06-11-2013, 02:11 PM   #5
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Sounds like you MAY have lost the pick-up coil inside the dizzy.
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Unread 06-11-2013, 04:20 PM   #6
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Just an update, I did some research on the pickup coil an it seems it can be tested pretty easily by a continuity test. I tested and it is reading voltage. Is timing a possibility?
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Unread 06-11-2013, 04:24 PM   #7
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check the timing, hook up a timing light and crank it and watch where the timing marks line up. i had to start a engine that way once because it was so far off. or put your finger in number and tap it over until it pops out and see if your close on the crank.
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Unread 06-11-2013, 04:25 PM   #8
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Just an update, I did some research on the pickup coil an it seems it can be tested pretty easily by a continuity test. I tested and it is reading voltage. Is timing a possibility?
Not unless you messed with timing by turn'n the dizzy or pulled the whole dizzy out.
THEN-YEAH.....
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Unread 06-11-2013, 04:29 PM   #9
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I had issues with the fan belt and I had to replace it. Is there any chance I could have thrown the timing off? The belt wasn't turning the pulleys? I'm guessing timing is gonna be the next thing even though I really don't know what I'm doing! Lol another jeep learning experience!
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Unread 06-11-2013, 04:40 PM   #10
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YOU really need to get a copy of the Factory Service Manual. Read the trouble shooting sections.....
Unless you moved the dizzy it S/B OK, I would think.
What else have you done to this jeep?

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Unread 06-11-2013, 04:50 PM   #11
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Keep in mind that your timing is set by the timing chain, not the belts. The belts just turn your accessories like the water pump and fan. If I were you and it starts to crank when you put starting fluid in it is make sure that you get fuel to the carb. Try taking off the air cleaner and making sure that your accelerator pump can squirt fuel in, that will be an indicator of whether or not it has fuel as long as the diaphragm for that isn't blown. If it has caught once or twice for you already I would assume that your timing is alright enough for it to at least get started.
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Unread 06-11-2013, 05:32 PM   #12
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Damn coil fuse is blown
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Unread 06-11-2013, 05:33 PM   #13
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Coil fuse??
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Unread 06-11-2013, 05:40 PM   #14
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30amp fuse in my panel labeled as "coil"
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Unread 06-11-2013, 05:45 PM   #15
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It must be an aftermarket wiring harness.

As said, the belts don't have anything to do with ignition timing.
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