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Unread 12-02-2009, 08:24 PM   #31
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This is starting to smell a lot like the Great Harley Debate... You know, some yup in the subdivision decides he wants to cop a rebel stance, so he goes to his local Harley Mall and buys a Soft Tail. Takes it home and brags to the neighbors about what kind of a hard *** he is and the tough-guy bars he's been in. Works great until he parks next to a real-life Shovel Head at a real-life biker bar. All of a sudden, he's not the tough guy he thought he was, and the Shovel owner has bragging rights. Up until the guy with the Pan Head shows up. He's King Cool until the guy with the Knuckle rolls in, complete with a girlfriend stout enough to kick the dang Knuckle to life.

My point? Everyone loves and defends what they have. And authenticity is a fool's errand. Whatever you own, someone own's something cooler, more authentic, and more real. So, you might just as well decide what fits you and not look to others for advice. Everyone loves what they currently own, and to some extent will attempt to denegrate what they don't. Human nature. You want a vehicle that makes sense? A Taurus I guess, or if you want 4WD, maybe a modern Tahoe or Yukon. You'll need some buck$.

Get an early 40's Military Jeep and enjoy the heck out of it and make fun of all us for not getting it...

Or maybe I'm just getting crusty in my old age.

Still, if you own a 5, you'll vote for a 5. If you own a 7, they're the only thing to own. I own a '53 Allis Chalmers WD-45. I'll state categorically that there is NO better off road vehicle. You want crawl ratio? Got it in spades. Oh, and the 3-point hitch rocks as well.

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Unread 12-03-2009, 05:32 AM   #32
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...if I had it to do all over again, I'd be driving a CJ7 for all the reasons listed above.
What he said.
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Unread 01-24-2010, 11:46 AM   #33
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I've found the lack of leg room has been an issue with me also. I'm 6'2" and I've moved the seat all the way back to the fender without finding enough leg room. Once she's put back together and I have enough clearance, I'm going to notch the wheel well out so that I can move it back further.
i second this.....

i love my 5, but the leg room does get annoying.

keep us updated on the wheel well notching. i'm interested to see how much room you can get.
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Unread 01-25-2010, 04:08 PM   #34
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This is starting to smell a lot like the Great Harley Debate... You know, some yup in the subdivision decides he wants to cop a rebel stance, so he goes to his local Harley Mall and buys a Soft Tail. Takes it home and brags to the neighbors about what kind of a hard *** he is and the tough-guy bars he's been in. Works great until he parks next to a real-life Shovel Head at a real-life biker bar. All of a sudden, he's not the tough guy he thought he was, and the Shovel owner has bragging rights. Up until the guy with the Pan Head shows up. He's King Cool until the guy with the Knuckle rolls in, complete with a girlfriend stout enough to kick the dang Knuckle to life.

My point? Everyone loves and defends what they have. And authenticity is a fool's errand. Whatever you own, someone owns something cooler, more authentic, and more real. So, you might just as well decide what fits you and not look to others for advice. Everyone loves what they currently own, and to some extent will attempt to denigrate what they don't. Human nature. You want a vehicle that makes sense? A Taurus I guess, or if you want 4WD, maybe a modern Tahoe or Yukon. You'll need some buck$.

Get an early 40's Military Jeep and enjoy the heck out of it and make fun of all us for not getting it...

Or maybe I'm just getting crusty in my old age.

Still, if you own a 5, you'll vote for a 5. If you own a 7, they're the only thing to own. I own a '53 Allis Chalmers WD-45. I'll state categorically that there is NO better off road vehicle. You want crawl ratio? Got it in spades. Oh, and the 3-point hitch rocks as well.
I agree to a point, but I think the CJ5 vs 7 argument is a lot about practicality and use. If I was strictly doing trail stuff with 2 people I'd probably lean to the 5, as nothing seems to fit the small spots better than a 5 - except for a Suzuki Sammi. For something with a little more space and for DD I would lean to the 7. Lets face it though, if you really want a DD/wheeler you are probably leaning toward a TJ...

BTW, sounds like you may have dated the knuckle riders girlfriend in the early days
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Unread 01-25-2010, 04:49 PM   #35
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I agree to a point, but I think the CJ5 vs 7 argument is a lot about practicality and use. If I was strictly doing trail stuff with 2 people I'd probably lean to the 5, as nothing seems to fit the small spots better than a 5 - except for a Suzuki Sammi. For something with a little more space and for DD I would lean to the 7. Lets face it though, if you really want a DD/wheeler you are probably leaning toward a TJ...

I agree 100% except the TJ part. I had one before the '5 and it would brake down when it was brand new in the damndest ways. Super unreliable. A nice CJ-7 would be much better than a TJ if you were looking for a Jeep that size.
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Unread 01-25-2010, 06:43 PM   #36
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Ok, so I STILL date the "Knuckle Girls"... They can kick-start ANYTHING!

But, ask yourself this; as a reader of the CJ forum, and thus, presumably, a CJ owner, do you envy the 4-door "Jeeps" that you see on the road everyday? I don't. So, really, what's the difference between a CJ-5 and a CJ-7 vs. a CJ-7 and the 4-door version? Yeah, I know, there's a ton of technical differences, but my point is that a CJ-7 is to a 5 owner what a 4-door is to a 7 owner.

Human nature...
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Unread 01-25-2010, 06:59 PM   #37
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A 4-door is nothing compared to a CJ7
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Unread 01-25-2010, 07:01 PM   #38
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Sure, and a 7 is NOTHING compared to a 5, depending on your point of view.

HUMAN NATURE!!!
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Unread 01-26-2010, 10:38 AM   #39
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...Have had both CJ-5 and CJ-7, built both, wheeled both extensively on and of road.
I definitely prefer the CJ-7 it has significant advantages for both highway travel on long trips, and off road (the CJ-5 worked but it was nearly as uncomfortable as a Corvette on long trips, due to its increased tendency to porpoise, slightly, on poor highways).
The 5 also was much tougher to drive on ice.
Off road the longer CJ-7 has less of a tendency to want to endo (both forward and backward) on steep hills. The CJ-7 also has less of a problem with tall stair steps.

The only place that the CJ-5 worked better was at squirreling between trees.

Both had locked 4.56 narrow track axles and SOA with YJ springs and fuel injection, deep transfer case gearing and were used with the same 33" tires (my 7 now has 35s and I got rid of the 5).

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Unread 01-26-2010, 10:46 AM   #40
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Didn't read all comments .... but CJ7 will be more comfortable no doubt..... but dont let a hardtop stop you from going with the cj5.....they did make hardtops for them.
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Unread 04-29-2011, 07:00 PM   #41
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I miss my 5 and it was really a PITA to get in and out

What I really miss was the conviction you CJ guys have for them. You guys rule in all ways I would say 95% of my post's were questions I was asking, and got great answers.


Oh and it's really funny how this thread started in 03
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Unread 04-29-2011, 07:44 PM   #42
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I am 6'3"..... I'm a big guy, but I do not have a gut.

I currently drive a CJ-7. I have owned a CJ-7 prior, a Scrambler, and an '85 CJ-5.

I miss my '82 CJ-5..... a lot! Nothing fancy, bone stock (replacement springs as the old ones were tired), inline 6, T-176. Learned a lot with that Jeep, like how to put in a new clutch in the driveway, with the aid of a buddy and floor jack! I wish I never sold it (sold to fund Scrambler build, which was rolled and destroyed). It was simply a lot of run to drive, and I enjoyed how maneuverable it was. They simply just look cool... chix LOVED it!!! As far as handling better on the highway than a CJ-7 due to the shorter wheelbase, well, sure... but I have also leaned toward the side of caution when taking tight turns ect., CJ-7 or CJ-5.

I didn't see much of a problem with the CJ-5's seating. If I was overweight or out of shape, I could see how getting in and out of a CJ-5 would be a challenge. But once put, well, you are in a Jeep, not an Accord. You simply sit more upright... doing so, leg room is adequate, like sitting at your desk. It is a classic Jeep! Not a 4X4 mini-van (sorry, I just cannot stand the new Wranglers).

My current CJ-7 kicks a$$, but when the time comes for another Jeep, I want another CJ-5!
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Unread 04-29-2011, 07:54 PM   #43
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In hindsight, I had the most fun with a rusted out stock '76 CJ-7 with a strong 304, and a stock low mileage CJ-5.... go figure. I think sometimes we get so wrapped around the axle about building and improving our Jeeps, that we forget to appreciate them for what they are.
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Unread 07-19-2011, 11:28 PM   #44
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I was a CJ-5 guy from the mid 70's, to the mid '90's, and pretty much loved them. Then I got a CJ7, modded it to the same standards as my 5's always got to, and fell in love. But, I'm 6'1"(+).

I don't think that the 2 handle that much different (except:
A) high-speed on highway in crappy conditions (CJ7 MUCH more stable), &
B) Tight wheeling (CJ5 MUCH more "agile"))
That said - How big are you? If you're doing a project build-up, you can throw a 86-95 wrangler tub on there, and really expand your "plug & play" interior / roof solutions (BUT - put a CJ tailgate on it). You also mentioned taking family / kids along - unless they're late teens, they'll just keep getting bigger.

CJ5 isn't bad, but - when it comes to room, it's the CJ7, hands down. BTW, being in alaska, you may want to look at including aux heat in the build-up - even if it gets unhooked and removed in the summer. (Just a thought) - "Eastwood" sells insulating floor liner - warm that little rolling icebox up; stop radiating BTU's through the sheet metal. It's self-sticking - heck - might even be an idea for the hard-top, too.

BTW - all of these "Seat mod / leg room" solutions - none takes into account the following - where do the back seat (family member) passenger's feet & legs go in a CJ5. I remember when my nephews were 5, they didn't like the back seats, and ended up crossing their legs completely onto the rear seat.

AND ... I don't equate 7's (except the auto-tranny quadra-traks) with the new 4-doors. One of my CJ5's was a '65 CJ-5A (Tuxedo Park), metal roof, 3-on-the-tree, and 134 F-head.
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Unread 07-20-2011, 12:54 AM   #45
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I am 6' 4.5" tall and I have tried to squeeze into a 5, but cannot. I think the cool factor kicks up a notch on 5 as compared to a 7, but I always find a need to stuff stuff into that 1' wide cargo area behind the back seat. Maybe once the kids are gone, I will find a 5
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