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post #16 of 52 Old 07-06-2011, 07:06 PM
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Ive got a 4wd windshield frame and havent had any problems at all with it. Its a nice sturdy unit and super lightweight. Got a glass grille from them too actually and it seems like good quality as well. Body, fenders, grill, and wind frame are all 4wd. Good stuff.

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post #17 of 52 Old 07-06-2011, 09:54 PM Thread Starter
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All,

Thanks for your input. Keep'em comming.

Impression I am getting so far is that there are many poor quality fiberglass frames out there. Some folk have had good results with quality units obtained from 4WDHW & Shell Valley (may be others as well). These sources also carry heavier duty units with Kevlar which seem to be better quality as well.

Shell Valley mentioned by Exposed appears to have some attractive prices. 'Glass tubs have not been of interest to me before, but with those prices and the gelcoat option, I'm a bit tempted. When you consider the cost of a good conventional paint job, a good quality Kevlar gelcoat tub kit is tempting. Draw backs to the gelcoat is limited color selection and not sure how the gelcoat finish really comes across in person. Wonder if it gives the impression of a Tonka toy or maybe that your driving a bass boat on 4 wheels . . .

Hmmmmmm . . .

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how bout aluminum as a body replacement option?

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All,

Thanks for your input. Keep'em comming.

Impression I am getting so far is that there are many poor quality fiberglass frames out there. Some folk have had good results with quality units obtained from 4WDHW & Shell Valley (may be others as well). These sources also carry heavier duty units with Kevlar which seem to be better quality as well.

Shell Valley mentioned by Exposed appears to have some attractive prices. 'Glass tubs have not been of interest to me before, but with those prices and the gelcoat option, I'm a bit tempted. When you consider the cost of a good conventional paint job, a good quality Kevlar gelcoat tub kit is tempting. Draw backs to the gelcoat is limited color selection and not sure how the gelcoat finish really comes across in person. Wonder if it gives the impression of a Tonka toy or maybe that your driving a bass boat on 4 wheels . . .

Hmmmmmm . . .

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I have not seen them in person, but if you do a gelcoat right, you can make it look just as good as a paint job. It need to be thick enough so you can sand it like you block a car. When I do my layers I wetsand all the way to 400grit then spray some clear coats on it and wetsand the clear then spray again and wax. Looks just like a paintjob

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post #20 of 52 Old 07-07-2011, 08:22 AM
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I had an all fiberglass tub and windshield on my cj5 and it had to issues with it, but I only used it in the summer. No issues with flexing, bikini top or wipers.

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TXJeeper - Aluminum gives you issues when bolting things to it - galvanic corrosion from the dislike metals. Not many people use them because a steel one would last a bit longer if properly cared for, from my understanding.

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I had an all fiberglass tub and windshield on my cj5 and it had to issues with it, but I...
Is that supposed to be "no" issues? Kinda threw me the first time i read it... but then again I am just waking up..

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so the shell kevalr units sound very appealing along with the price but id feel better if someone had input on them

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More negative feedback than positive for FG frames. Positive feedback seems to be limited to HD units with Kevlar. No longterm experience reported using the Shell Valley units.

Oh, yeah . . . bumpety.

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More negative feedback than positive for FG frames. Positive feedback seems to be limited to HD units with Kevlar. No longterm experience reported using the Shell Valley units.

Oh, yeah . . . bumpety.

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You sure?
It seems like there were only 4 negative feedbacks vs 5 positive ones.
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post #25 of 52 Old 07-12-2011, 04:14 AM
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GuacaTex, I actually drove up to Nebraska and picked up my complete body with my Toy Hauler and brought back to Houston. While I was there, I toured there process on building their stuff. It was quiet impressive and sold me on them after seeing how they did business. They are not only limited to Jeeps so had a large crowd of people that use their products.. As far as the Gelcoat, it is really a nice finish. More like you would fine on a boat.... Very smooth and almost as good as a good quality paint job. The only downside would be fiberglass will discolor if left out in the sun even with UV stuff mixed in with it. If Jeep was garaged, probably not an issue. If left outside year around, you would need to keep waxed often to preserve finish. I leaned toward the non-colored gelcoat because of the House of Color Pearl I wanted to use. They actually said they could match pretty close. They will mix whatever color you want for an additional charge (did not think it was much). But since I was using a Ralley Top/Doors, I needed the doors to match. They would have to be painted and decided I would paint in lieu of the colored gelcoat. If I was going with a flat color, (Red, Blue, Yellow, etc.), I would definitely went that route and saved the money I spent on paint, equipment, etc... It would have been definitely cheaper in the long run... The Kelvar does make a difference. You can really tell when you just bore holes through it.. You can tell it tough like steel... By the way, the guy that sold me on using Shell Valley had just finished a yellow gelcoat Jeep. It looked great. That feature is nice, just bolt it together and you are done.. No sanding, priming, painting, buffing, etc.....

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well the shell prices are very good cheaper than the kentrol versions, but kentrol makes a hood with a small scoop on it , and i kinda want it lol just a small scoop but over 600 bucks for a hood is kinda overkill if shell valley made a scoop hood id be all over it
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Can you just get a normal hood and a cheap scoop and glass them together? May take more work, but you either pay for them to do it or you do it yourself..

Cjjon7 - how long have you had the 4WDH frame on there? I read somewhere that somebody said their 'glass stuff isn't as strong as it was. Are you running a soft top or bikini on it?

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Im not doing the work myself , im deployed and am having a reputable shop do it for me

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Theres a cool JEEP here 4 picutres from the left!

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Dang, that Jeep looks familiar........ Guess I should start a new thread on the tranny swap out... Got the new AX-15 this week from Novak and getting ready to swap out the T-176 in the near future. Debating on when since it is so hot right now
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