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Unread 05-19-2010, 11:01 AM   #1
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Differences Between The CJ, YJ, TJ, And The JK ?

An internet friend is considering the purchase of a TJ and asking for opinions. I would like to help him but have only owned CJ7's. The YJ's had the 4.0, square headlights, and a different dash, but still had leaf springs. The TJ had the 4.0, coil springs, and again a different dash. What other notable differences are there ?
Secondly, he states that the Wrangler X holds it's value very well. My brother had a TJ for a short time and that was not his experience but he did take a hit from buying brand new. Your thoughts ?
Thirdly, he called the TJ basically a Wrangler. I told him that really was just a trim package. Was I right ?
Lastly he also said it was the APEX edition. What is that ?
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Unread 05-19-2010, 11:07 AM   #2
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Ok, TJ is just the model designation and the name it was called in Canada. There is no difference between TJ and Wrangler except that TJ specifies years.

Apex addition sounds like it is newer than a 2000, I can't remember what years that was offered. The Apex edition I believe started as a sport and had options added to it. Yes, TJs hold their value immensely well compared to any vehicle on the road. I put ~15k on my last one and the value only dropped $500.

If the Apex has the I6, it will be a 4.0L. The TJ is a great generation Vehicle. He will love it. How many miles, and what is the price?
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Unread 05-19-2010, 11:08 AM   #3
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Well the YJ, TJ, and JK are all Wranglers, just different body models.
The YJ had a vacuum actuated front axle for 4wd, can be problematic at times.
The YJ and some TJs had a Dana 35 rear axle, C-Clips, pretty weak.

If he is a tall guy, he might have legroom issues with TJs and JKs. I am 6'5" and my knees touch the dash in a TJ.

If I bought another Jeep it would be a 92-95 YJ. My first Jeep was a 92 YJ, and it was a good one.
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All YJs, TJs and JKs are Wranglers.
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Unread 05-19-2010, 11:13 AM   #5
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The Apex Edition is a special edition model made in 2002-parts of 2003. It pretty much had some fugly brown seats, the hood decal and upgraded stereo system. I have one and I love it! Jeeps in my area tend to keep their value VERY well.
Here's a linky for you.
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Unread 05-19-2010, 11:51 AM   #6
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There is also a size difference between them. CJ's are just more prone to roll that way.

Also roll cage. I forget when but I think it started with the YJ's that they added a "family style roll cage" which basically protected the passengers better. Added the bars that run along side to the windshield as well. My opinion it looks uglier.

And yes, even in michigan where I am and rust in an enemy of jeeps. They hold their value.
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Early YJ's still had the 4.2 258 (87, 88, 89 and part of 90 I think).
Family roll bar replaced the sport bar (kid cruncher) in '92
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Early YJ's still had the 4.2 258 (87, 88, 89 and part of 90 I think).
Family roll bar replaced the sport bar (kid cruncher) in '92
Kid cruncher...
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The TJ roll bar is actually very strong, so that is not a worry.
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The TJ roll bar is actually very strong, so that is not a worry.
Relative to what, a toothpick?

The TJ bar is several pieces bolted together. It is not as strong as the fully welded bars that preceded it.

I'm looking for photos and video of one that went over a few years ago in Moab on Hell's Gate (Hell's Revenge trail).....
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they all suck compared to a CJ...jeeps should leak smell, breakdown and get your *** home...mine does..plus it is safe..I cant text or use the cell while driving if I value my life...!! I love all jeeps except the JK series I would take square headlights over those school bus looking things...JK...jeeps way of saying Just Kidding...JK....

PS at jeep beach last weekend in front of 400 jeeps and GOD..and new JK got stuck on the beach then a CAR drove past while they were pushing it...it was too funny!
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Relative to what, a toothpick?

The TJ bar is several pieces bolted together. It is not as strong as the fully welded bars that preceded it.

I'm looking for photos and video of one that went over a few years ago in Moab on Hell's Gate (Hell's Revenge trail).....
Um.... The TJ roll bar is thicker than DOM tubing. Ignorance is blissfull I guess. Well, maybe not in this situation. It won't hold up to a roll down a switchback, but it is more than safe enough for a roll at highway speed, or a base for a cage.
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JK...jeeps way of saying Just Kidding...JK....
As in...Just Kidding we didnt really offer a 2WD model of the original 4x4... Oh wait they did...nice one Chrysler
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Um.... The TJ roll bar is thicker than DOM tubing. Ignorance is blissfull I guess.
Ignorance?

Are you aware that DOM tubing is a type of tubing and not a size or thickness?

DOM tubing is available in a variety of diameters and wall thicknesses, so your statement makes no sense whatsoever. The ignorance statement becomes quite ironic.

Tubing diameter and wall thickness is only a small part of the total equation when it comes to overall strength. Design and methods of construction are at least as important, if not more important.
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I understand that. I wrote the wrong thing. I meant to type DOM tubing that is commonly used for cages.
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