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Unread 06-23-2013, 11:25 PM   #46
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Is anyone on here from AZ? According to what I've read, the Jeep wouldn't need to be smogged in AZ.

My parents have a house in AZ and I think that's my out! Their house is in Parker, and smog only applies to Tucson and Phoenix Areas. My only concern is the fact that I've already started the paperwork with CA. Can that be undone?
I would sell it to your parents for $1 and borrow it. Sounds like registering it in your name in a different state might be frowned upon.

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Unread 06-24-2013, 05:56 AM   #47
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I would sell it to your parents for $1 and borrow it. Sounds like registering it in your name in a different state might be frowned upon.
Trying to beat the system in general is frowned upon as well. Like I said, do the right thing because karma is a bitc$!!
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Unread 06-24-2013, 12:45 PM   #48
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You could just move to a free state that isn't run by idiots.

Such a shame too. California is such a beatuiful state and the commies have ruined it.

Those long shackles look like Conferr. Good ones that are no longer made. FYI.
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Unread 06-24-2013, 01:18 PM   #49
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I would sell it to your parents for $1 and borrow it. Sounds like registering it in your name in a different state might be frowned upon.
Even driving a "borrowed" vehicle from another state is not legit. If the vehicle is physically in the state of California for more than 20 consecutive days, it must be registered in California.
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Unread 06-24-2013, 02:15 PM   #50
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Even driving a "borrowed" vehicle from another state is not legit. If the vehicle is physically in the state of California for more than 20 consecutive days, it must be registered in California.
There are only 2 situations where the residency law does not apply.
1.) Military personal on assignment in Calif. But are based in another state.
2.) Full time college students in school in Calif. but home is in another state.*

* this may have changed in the last few years.
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This is the kinda whiny crap I would expect to see in the JK forum. We drive rough riding, leaking, gas guzzling CJ's. Rattle can it and throw it in your Jeep.
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Unread 06-24-2013, 02:42 PM   #51
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That law also doesn't apply to folks on extended("snow-birds")vacations also.
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Unread 06-24-2013, 05:33 PM   #52
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If the vehicle is physically in the state of California for more than 20 consecutive days, it must be registered in California.
FWIW, the burden of proof is on the state to show that its been in CA over 20 days.... it's not that hard to get around 1-2X. You would just need to consistantly try to stay one step ahead, but that will get old after ahwile.
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Unread 06-24-2013, 08:02 PM   #53
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FWIW, the burden of proof is on the state to show that its been in CA over 20 days.... it's not that hard to get around 1-2X. You would just need to consistantly try to stay one step ahead, but that will get old after ahwile.
Well that's not difficult if you have a LEO that has a hard on for you or your vehicle.
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This is the kinda whiny crap I would expect to see in the JK forum. We drive rough riding, leaking, gas guzzling CJ's. Rattle can it and throw it in your Jeep.
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Unread 06-24-2013, 10:35 PM   #54
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Well that's not difficult if you have a LEO that has a hard on for you or your vehicle.
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Unread 06-24-2013, 11:35 PM   #55
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Trying to beat the system in general is frowned upon as well. Like I said, do the right thing because karma is a bitc$!!
Luckily Im in Oregon and dont need to worry about this crap but I can tell you one thing, If I had to move to California for some unforseen reason I would rather cheat the system and drive my Jeep than not drive it at all. If I got caught, I would respectfully pay the fines but until then, It would be on the road one way or another.
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Unread 06-25-2013, 03:55 AM   #56
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Here in the USA. At least in California and Nevada. The vehicle has to pass emissions equipment and test levels for the model year is was produced. As in this case it is a 78 so it has to have all equipment that was installed in 78 and pass emissions level for that same year.

No if he were to swap with a newer model engine it has to pass emissions for the model year of the engine. The law reads with an engine swap the emissions level of the newest will be required either car or engine.
Not exactly true about the "here in the USA" part. Emissions & inspections vary by state and sometimes even within a state.

In NC, only certain counties have to pass emission tests. They are mostly in and around the larger metropolitan areas. I have never had any vehicle undergo emission testing, and my 77 is now exempt from the yearly safety inspection.
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Unread 06-25-2013, 06:31 AM   #57
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Luckily Im in Oregon and dont need to worry about this crap but I can tell you one thing, If I had to move to California for some unforseen reason I would rather cheat the system and drive my Jeep than not drive it at all. If I got caught, I would respectfully pay the fines but until then, It would be on the road one way or another.
And it is this mentality that bites people in the hind quarters when they go to buy a vehicle from an area without smog laws, and take it back to their home county where there are smog laws. I know, I should have been more attentive, but cutting the cats off is illegal in any locality, regardless of what your county says.

OP, you have some options:
1. Sell it
2. EFI
3. Motor swap
4. Track down the emissions stuff needed to restore it to the factory configuration

Don't try to skirt the law, it'll lead to much bigger headaches down the road.
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Unread 06-26-2013, 09:16 PM   #58
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While not cheap (what, two grand installed?), the Howell TBI might be your easiest and quickest route to pleasing the smog Nazis. My wife has suggested moving there a few times lately for economic reasons. I just can't. I'm a law-abiding normal guy in Nevada, but in California I'm an instant criminal (you know, Jeep & guns). That's just wrong. California is a beautiful state that has been ruined by corrupt politics. The bastids don't deserve the great weather, mountains and beaches.
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Unread 06-26-2013, 09:45 PM   #59
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While not cheap (what, two grand installed?), the Howell TBI might be your easiest and quickest route to pleasing the smog Nazis. My wife has suggested moving there a few times lately for economic reasons. I just can't. I'm a law-abiding normal guy in Nevada, but in California I'm an instant criminal (you know, Jeep & guns). That's just wrong. California is a beautiful state that has been ruined by corrupt politics. The bastids don't deserve the great weather, mountains and beaches.
Native Californian here. I moved to Nevada back in '87. I spent 10 years in the Silver state and loved my time there. But the winters are too cold in Clark county. Besides Clark and Washoe have the exact same smog program as California!! So I moved back to a warmer winter climate.
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This is the kinda whiny crap I would expect to see in the JK forum. We drive rough riding, leaking, gas guzzling CJ's. Rattle can it and throw it in your Jeep.
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