post #1 of Old 06-10-2013, 02:34 PM Thread Starter
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Did I Get a Screaming Deal?

Hey guys, I'm Tyler, first time poster here. I've been reading on here for a couple of weeks now because I just bought my first CJ7! Just wanted to first say thanks for all of the information you guys share. It's already been a HUGE help.

In something of a leap of faith, I bought the Jeep on eBay. The description was very vague, but I did a lot of reading before pulling the trigger, and surmised that it had all of the "right" stuff, but I want to run it by all of you and see what you think. Here's what I got:

-'78 CJ7 w/a 258
-T18A 4-speed trans I THINK (reverse is upper right)
-Weber 32/36 DGEV carb
-Long tube headers
-4" (I think) suspension lift on 35" BFG MT

Not sure which transfer case I got, but I have 2 shifters. My understanding is that a lot of people add the shifter to the Dana 20, but I'd like to know what you guys thing.

The odometer reads 46K miles. I THINK that's how many have been clocked since it was restored. The guy I bought it from didn't know a whole lot. It feels pretty tight mechanically though.

Only downfalls: the tires need to be replaced, like now, and it's not running too hot. I think that's because there was about a 6K foot elevation change from where it was to where it is now. Need to dial in the carb, but I think I'm going to take it to a carb guy after I get it smogged and registered.

And I paid.......... $3,800 (plus shipping, tax and license).

First of all, what do you guys think of all of that!?

Second, I've been looking at tires, and I'm thinking of going 33s because of the lack of power. What do you guys think?

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post #2 of Old 06-10-2013, 02:47 PM
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I like the seats.

33"s would be better for power.

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post #3 of Old 06-10-2013, 02:54 PM
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Congrats! Have fun with it! Rob
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You might have trouble getting it smogged. Is it from another state?

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post #5 of Old 06-10-2013, 03:19 PM Thread Starter
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You might have trouble getting it smogged. Is it from another state?
I was wondering about that. Yes, it's from Idaho. What do you know about the smog requirements with these things?
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^^ditto^^ I don't pretend to know CA's laws, but in parts of Colorado those headers would be a no-go.
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If your intentions are to get it registered in California, you'll need all the original equipment meant for a California based Jeep. That's exhaust manifold, catalytic converter, smog pump, carb, etc.

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post #8 of Old 06-10-2013, 04:19 PM
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I'll give you $3801 for it right now!!!

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post #9 of Old 06-10-2013, 04:40 PM
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I think the Commiefornia smog experience will make you insane. Try to keep a cool head though, and be aware there could be some investment in your future. It might be cost effective to get into fuel injection.

On the plus side, the T18 is a jewel, and the rig looks to be in good shape. And yes, 33s will help. 35s are power suckers and (in my opinion) look weird on narrow-track CJs.
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post #10 of Old 06-10-2013, 07:24 PM
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No. You did not get a screaming deal. You got ripped off. If was rich I would absorb your loss. The best I can do is half price.
I live in Nigera. I hope that won't be a problem. Just send me your bank account information and I will wire you the funds (while I am wired, ).
Congrats, looks nice. Now you are officially an addict.
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post #11 of Old 06-10-2013, 07:25 PM
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drop those bumpers homey- those things look heavy! your shifter makes your jeep look...excited.

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post #12 of Old 06-10-2013, 08:27 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks guys. I've been reading about how to get it through smog now. I'm hoping that I can find a shop that doesn't know anything about CJs. Going to keep looking.
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Screaming deal, I'm not sure. I'm seeing a door with no handle. Some really flat springs for 4" of lift, (on the front) and I'm afraid to ask for a picture of the spring shackles in the front. How does it drive a 45+ mph? I ask because of the angle I'm seeing of the front differential cover, and what looks like a large space between the front of the front spring and the frame.

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For reference these are 2.5" lift springs, with a shackle 1" longer than stock,(1/2") lift.

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On the plus side, It sounds like a T18, but with reverse to the right and up, it would be a 1B not a "A". Both came with a Dana 20.
The intake appears to be a Clifford, not certain though. For sure '78's I don't believe came with a aluminum manifold.

I'm not trying to diss your purchase. Just pointing out some things.

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Screaming deal, I'm not sure. I'm seeing a door with no handle. Some really flat springs for 4" of lift, (on the front) and I'm afraid to ask for a picture of the spring shackles in the front. How does it drive a 45+ mph? I ask because of the angle I'm seeing of the front differential cover, and what looks like a large space between the front of the front spring and the frame.

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For reference these are 2.5" lift springs, with a shackle 1" longer than stock,(1/2") lift.

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On the plus side, It sounds like a T18, but with reverse to the right and up, it would be a 1B not a "A". Both came with a Dana 20.
The intake appears to be a Clifford, not certain though. For sure '78's I don't believe came with a aluminum manifold.

I'm not trying to diss your purchase. Just pointing out some things.

Bill
Bill, thanks for the feedback. As for the door handles, the previous owner had them shaved and now it has remote entry. Stupid, but I can deal with it. I was guessing at the lift. I only said that because of the tire size. Newbie mistake. It does, however, fit in an 8' garage.

The intake manifold it an Offenhauser. I found that out yesterday after cleaning the motor up. As for driving above 45, I haven't gotten there yet. Trying to figure out all this smog stuff before I go about doing that. From what the previous owner said though, it's a little squirly. How would I fix that? Leaning process here
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It looks like you may have a bit of work to do if it needs to be as per original spec to pass smog. However nothing too expensive as all those parts can be found and in 1978 vehicles were a lot simpler to work on.

Is your fuel filter on right? It needs to be horizointal with the fuel return pipe at the 12 o'clock position. This will aid running. Also those 35s will be slowing it down, check the axle ratios and consider whether 31s or 33s would make it more driveable.

It does not look like a highly original time machine or a highly upgraded rig, just an old CJ7. The price you paid is therefore about right and you should be able to have some real fun getting it just how you like it as there is nothing you have to keep original. It looks like a wiser buy than splashing out on expensive stuff you will then change.

A good start, welcome to the addiction. Now Just Empty Every Pocket.

Whether it is a SCREAMING DEAL depends on how much patience you have when you find the bills mounting.

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