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post #1 of 8 Old 04-17-2014, 04:37 AM Thread Starter
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Detroit Locker not engaging

Hi All,, My first post here.
I have a Dana 44 rear with a Detroit locker in it. It was in the Jeep when I bought it. It is a 1978 CJ6. After doing some research I don't think the Dana came from the factory in 78 so I have no idea what it's history is. This is the first locker I have dealt with.
I get the loud pops as many here have described, usually on acceleration or when shifting. Scared the heck out of me the first time, thought the rear end fell out!
The question though is related to how it locks up.
If I jack up the passenger side tire and turn forward it spins the ring gear and makes the normal clicking noise. If I then turn it backwards it makes a loud clunk. Sometime after that clunk I can spin the tire and nothing in the rear end spins - tire is basically free wheeling.
Is this normal? Trying to go through the Jeep and make sure everything is working properly. After the clunking noises I wanted to make sure the rear end was solid.
Thanks for the help
From comparing pictures the locker looks like it is model 187SL16C

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post #2 of 8 Old 04-17-2014, 04:52 AM
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The test I have seen and read about is to jack up both tires and then spin one. If the tire on the other side spins the same way, your traction device is working, if the other tire spins the opposite way, you diff is acting like an open diff.

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A Detroit is only going to lock when power is applied via the driveshaft. Freewheeling is normal if it's not under power.
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post #4 of 8 Old 04-17-2014, 10:17 AM
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Welcome! Get it on some gravel and give enough power to spin the tires. If both spin your good to go. DL's are fairly bulletproof. But they can be scary, having had one for 15 years. Sometimes a sudden acceleration or let-off on the go pedal while on pavement will give you a quick sideways jerk as there is lots of slop in the differential occasionally causing one tire to do all the pushing or pulling. Mine chirps the tires on every acceleration while turning and pulling out into traffic. And on a slow turn in a parking lot you will hear a gravelly noise like a bad bearing. And the worst is every once in a while, the tires will bind up on pavement and when it lets loose, it will sound like you broke something. Not real user friendly, but good in the sand.

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The test I have seen and read about is to jack up both tires and then spin one. If the tire on the other side spins the same way, your traction device is working, if the other tire spins the opposite way, you diff is acting like an open diff.
A Detroil Locker will never spin the wheels in the opposite direction as the diferential contains no gears, only dog type clutches. Here is some interesting info and a test procedure.:

http://4x4icon.com/offroad/detroit/detroit_noslip.htm
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post #6 of 8 Old 04-17-2014, 02:44 PM
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A Detroit is only going to lock when power is applied via the driveshaft. Freewheeling is normal if it's not under power.
THIS X2.
A 'Detroit Locker' is NOT a limited slip. A D/L, LOCKS your axle as if you are using a 'spool'.
Get your Jeep on some loose sand/dirt and you should be able to spin the BOTH rear tires with ease.
No, the D/L was not OEM. A power-loc LSD was.
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Thanks for all the great responses. I was not expecting so much good info so quickly!.
It does spin both tires in soft dirt fine. Sounds like everything is normal, at least as normal as these things get.

This forum is a wealth of great info. Keep up the good work!
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post #8 of 8 Old 04-18-2014, 04:43 AM
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A Detroil Locker will never spin the wheels in the opposite direction as the diferential contains no gears, only dog type clutches. Here is some interesting info and a test procedure.:

http://4x4icon.com/offroad/detroit/detroit_noslip.htm
That is good to know, thanks. Seeing as I have one front and rear on my new YJ, it is good to know how they work.

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