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Unread 05-18-2011, 08:35 PM   #16
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Alright fellas, I know you've all been excitedly awaiting my next drawing, so here you go.

Keep in mind, where you see the stock speedo will more than likely be the Auto Meter MPH / Speedo you saw above. Where you see 2 volt meters and 2 oil pressure meters will be 1 of the following: water temp, oil pressure, voltage, fuel quantity. And in the empty CD player slots hopefully I can fit all of the 3 mentioned above, the regular radio, CB radio, and HAM radio. The gauge above the wiper knob, picture that as an analog clock.



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So, please continue with the critique. As before I am open to any and all comments / suggestions. Good or bad. Keep in mind I have no idea what I'm doing here and you guys are figuring out the hard part for me
i think the radios and the 4 small guages should be flip floped. the guages should be closer to the driver then the radios in my opinion. ya dont want to have to lean over to read the guages to see if everything runs properly. if not move the radios the guages should be in a place where they should be easily read without having to adjust your seating position. I agree with others either the cb or the ham has to go someplace else. im no expert on fabricating dashes but thats the first thing i thought of when i seen your pic those 4 lil guages would be a tough read viewing them from such an angle.

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Unread 05-18-2011, 08:39 PM   #17
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I'm with you on having everything at your fingertips, but I think you will be under-satisfied with your dash when you're done. First thing that comes to my mind is all the weight from the 3 radios and the very limited support the dash will give. So you'll need to brace everything up pretty well to keep from warping the dash. The other thing that comes to mind is having two mike cords hanging in a jumbled mess. They're going to get tangled and look pretty bulky. I think at least one of them should go into a nice console, preferrably overhead.
I've also thought about the over head consoles. Tuffy makes a nice one. But honestly I really just don't think they're for me. I may end up with one, but I won't be happy with it. It does look like the best / easiest option at this point.

http://www.tuffyproducts.com/p-118-048-overhead-security-console-2-compartment.aspx



As far as the weight / support, I agree. Most of these Ham radios come with a remote mountable face plate, meaning you could mount the actual radio under your seat or hidden away somewhere, and just mount the face plate to the dash. So for that I wouldn't need to cut a hole or support anything. That would just leave the CB and regular radio. With that idea I might be able to stick with my original MS paint drawing. Idk.

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And as for the cords getting tangled / bulky / all over the place. Meh. I'll put one on each side. Not too incredibly worried about it. With the Ham radio I could also attach an extension to the mic cable and have it coil up somewhere else. Tons of options with these radios.
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Unread 05-18-2011, 08:41 PM   #18
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i think the radios and the 4 small guages should be flip floped. the guages should be closer to the driver then the radios in my opinion. ya dont want to have to lean over to read the guages to see if everything runs properly. if not move the radios the guages should be in a place where they should be easily read without having to adjust your seating position. I agree with others either the cb or the ham has to go someplace else. im no expert on fabricating dashes but thats the first thing i thought of when i seen your pic those 4 lil guages would be a tough read viewing them from such an angle.
I would also like to do that, but currently the heater ducting is in the way. So that won't work.

If the 4 small gauges have to stay where they are, Auto Meter sells angled mounting cups so they could point at me.

http://www.yearone.com/serverfiles/f...hid=426AL51364

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Unread 05-18-2011, 09:05 PM   #19
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If you have a welder and a grinder you could make those rings out of chrome plated titanium for less than the plastic rings. I may be exagerating a little but not much. Holy crap they want a lot for a angle cut plastic tube.
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Unread 05-18-2011, 09:23 PM   #20
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Unread 05-18-2011, 10:03 PM   #21
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Shepherd, you really got me thinking with that post. You know what they say, a picture is worth 1,000 words.

Here is what my mind derived from your picture:

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Unread 05-18-2011, 11:44 PM   #22
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Shepherd, what kind of guages are those?? Could you get a dead on picture of the dash to I can see your layout? I think its beautiful.
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Unread 05-19-2011, 06:08 AM   #23
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Since I tapped the oil pressure to turn on things (pressure switches for accessories) I built a pressure manifold and mounted it on the fender, then connected everything to it.
This lets me mount an oil pressure gauge in that manifold very easily.

Fuel pressure gauge is in the line to the carb.

I don't have an under hood temp gauge, but I might have one in the future...

Since my air compressor is under hood, that's where I mounted the gauge. Simple and quick to mount it in the air compressor manifold that has the pop off valve and switches mounted in it.

The one thing I can tell you with under hood gauges is...
You want SEALED gauges!
I use the little bitty liquid filled gauges. (Liquid filled means they are sealed)
The are unobtrusive and reliable since they are mechanical.

Liquid filled for the dash will mean they live longer.
The liquid buffers them against vibration/shock loading, and that will keep them alive longer.
Liquid filled gauges can be dunked under water and still survive, where electric gauges often die.
No problems with moisture condensation in liquid filled gauges either, but most are not back lit, which means a light shining on the face to see them at night.

If you use electric gauges in the cockpit, make sure you put them on quick connectors to the wiring harness.
It's very easy to modify the wiring pig tail to the gauge and plug the new gauge right back into the harness rather than hang up-side-down under the dash trying to figure out which wire goes where while trying to change connectors on the harness!
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Unread 05-19-2011, 06:18 AM   #24
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i think you will have issue with trying to put heater controls offset to the right, control cables likely to short. also stock speedo on left of column lots of wires and fuse box in that area, just seems to me you would be fighting for space.
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Unread 05-19-2011, 07:38 AM   #25
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If you use electric gauges in the cockpit, make sure you put them on quick connectors to the wiring harness.
It's very easy to modify the wiring pig tail to the gauge and plug the new gauge right back into the harness rather than hang up-side-down under the dash trying to figure out which wire goes where while trying to change connectors on the harness!
I like this idea....
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Unread 05-19-2011, 08:08 AM   #26
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If you use electric gauges in the cockpit, make sure you put them on quick connectors to the wiring harness.
It's very easy to modify the wiring pig tail to the gauge and plug the new gauge right back into the harness rather than hang up-side-down under the dash trying to figure out which wire goes where while trying to change connectors on the harness!
When I built this dash, I made the entire gauge segment of the dash removable...





Backside cut-out...



Threaded PEM inserts pressed into the dash...



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Unread 05-19-2011, 09:32 AM   #27
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Shepherd, what kind of guages are those?? Could you get a dead on picture of the dash to I can see your layout? I think its beautiful.

they're autometer, I'll try and get pics tomorrow
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Unread 05-19-2011, 08:22 PM   #28
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I also think you are going to need to keep the heater controls in the stock locations. Trying to make custom pull cables that are the right length and connect at the correct angles would be very difficult. So leave them stock, move the speedo up enough to slide a radio under it, install another radio to the right of the first, stack two small gauges above the headlight switch and put the rest above the right hand radio. Since you are not using the speaker location, it gives you a lot of room toward the glove box side. The third radio could go in a center or overhead console, it might fit on the right side but that will crowd that area fast.
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Unread 05-20-2011, 07:28 AM   #29
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Here is mine. All gauges will clear the heater/defroster, as will the relocated glove box. As for stereo, I am installing it in a MaxBilt center console. Dash was designed by Double D fab, with input from me as to what and where. I am using AutoMeter gauges.
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Unread 05-20-2011, 07:31 AM   #30
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Here is a link to Daniel's Double D Fabrication page. This is one of the best values I have experienced for this project. From initial contact to delivery, the guy is top notch.

http://sites.google.com/site/doubledfab/jeep-cj-dashs
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