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Unread 01-11-2012, 04:11 AM   #16
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This will be interesting to watch since it's got the driver controls on the wrong... er, I mean other side of the Jeep! Nice job so far.
Those clear plastic tubes on your brake lines. I assume they are to replace the wrapped wire guards that were on there? I would seal up the ends of the tubing or water / mud will get in there and lay and rust your lines out prematurely. Just a suggestion.
I'm not 100% convinced on the rubber tubing idea. I got talked into it by the brake fella that made my hoses. I was thinking the same that they would probably last longer naked without the tubing! Newer vehicles don't have anything on them so I may forget the tubing/armourgaurd altogether.

Maybe someone could offer some advice?

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Unread 01-11-2012, 01:28 PM   #17
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I know that I've seen even the ones with the wrapped wire or spring type covering hold the dirt / mud and rust out the line. I would coat them with POR, at least in places where they have contact with something such as that clamp or along the frame. Personally, I'm going to go with stainless steel.
I also take clear tubing such as you have, and cut a piece about 1 1/4", heat the end (enough to melt) and crimp it shut with a pair of pliers. Hold it shut for 30 seconds or so. Then slide these over the bleeders to keep the dirt off and the rust away. Nothin' worse then trying to loosen a bleeder only to have the hex portion round off because it's rusted so bad. Been doing that for decades with success.
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Unread 02-01-2012, 11:13 PM   #18
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Fuel line route ?????

I've been working on getting the engine out of the YJ to build my stroker. I'm always thinking 100 steps in advance and thought of something I would like to ask the CJ gang.

I'm using the 4.0 intake for my build and YJ's have the fuel line run down the left side frame rail, where the CJ with the fuel pump on the right had the line up that side. The exhaust for the YJ swaps over to the right. Do I need to worry about heat from the exhaust if I run the fuel lines like the YJ? How much radiant heat actually gets to the fuel line? It seems like a long way to run it down the left to the front across under the radiator and up to the rail on the right hand side. What have the guys with MPFI done with thier fuel lines? What about the heat transfer from CJ's with V8's and running duel exhaust?

Sorry for the long winded question.
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Unread 02-02-2012, 09:35 AM   #19
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I wouldn't think it's an issue, your not that close and gas isn't that volatile unless it's in a vapor state . The CJ's have gas lines running down both sides already (the return line).
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Unread 02-02-2012, 11:22 PM   #20
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Sorry I wasn't clear on my question. I was worried about the fuel getting heated causing vapour locking or efficiency issues with warmer fuel entering the fuel injector.

I may ask this in a separate thread to get a response.
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You can run it up and across the bulkhead and back down the other side, no need to go round the front as such.
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Unread 02-15-2012, 04:41 AM   #22
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Quick update,

I've set the chassis to the side for a bit and have the engine block in at the engine reconditioners getting tanked this week. I took the AX15 apart last night and she looks very clean. Didn't even have any filings in the bottom! So I've opted to order new seals and gaskets only and will get it cleaned up and I'll put it back together. Also ordered the Novak adapter to mate it with the D300. It didn't give me any dramas when it was running so I've just ordered new seal and gaskets for it as well. A good cleanup and a lick of paint is all it should need.

Hopefully the news from the engine shop is just as good.
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Unread 02-15-2012, 05:10 AM   #23
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Got a bit of time to work out in the shed tonight. For the brakes I've decided to change the proportioning valve to the right hand side (right hand drive). It almost seemed like it was designed to be over that side as there is a matching set of holes on the right side. I used a home made nutsert tool for the bolts (more handy tips from lurking on this site).

I thought I'd get into the tube bending gradually so I started with the back right side.
Awesome build, my only concern would be the clear tubing over the rear brake line will hold water and mointure and may cause premature corrosion and maybe ultimately, preforation.
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Unread 02-15-2012, 06:44 PM   #24
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Awesome build, my only concern would be the clear tubing over the rear brake line will hold water and mointure and may cause premature corrosion and maybe ultimately, preforation.
I've gone off that idea. I'm going with naked tubing painted in por15.
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Unread 02-16-2012, 01:50 AM   #25
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Here's a view of the proportioning valve on the right hand side.
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Unread 03-29-2012, 04:03 AM   #26
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Boy, it's been a while since I had anything to add to the tread. The momentum always gets killed when you have to wait for parts to be shipped.

I did get the AX15 buttoned up and painted. I was going to paint my bell housing but found out about the external slave on newer models and have determined that it is what I may try and do. There is a lack of YJ spares here in Australia but I should be able to find parts for early TJ's.

Good news is today the pistons/rings and cam/lifters were on the step when I got home! They are the last bits I needed to finish the stroker. Hopefully I will have a new engine to show off in a few weeks.

Keith Black 2229c Pistons


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Lifters too
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Unread 03-29-2012, 08:37 PM   #27
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NICE. I'm in on this one. You need to stay a little ahead of me so I can copy! I too am jealous of the shop space.
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Unread 06-11-2012, 11:10 PM   #28
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More from the slowest build thread. I've been to the engine builder again to drop off the vibration dampener, cam gears & cover and a couple of oil pumps to get everything I need finished and I should have an engine this week.

The things I've been working on are the D300 freshen up. I've taken everything out of it and checked it out. Again, everything was in top shape so new seals and paint was all that was needed to get it back to perfect shape. I don't have a press so I didn't want to do a full disassemble if I didn't have to.

I had some POR15 left over from the transfer case so I painted up all my brake lines. I didn't like the plastic tubing so it's all gone. This finish should keep the rust away.

I was going to try to use the fuel pump from the YJ but I think it's going to be be too wide to fit through the CJ tank opening. I will have to get a new one that isn't quite so bulky. My plan is to fabricate on into the original CJ fuel feed and run the wires out through the opening. This way I will be able to use the original fuel gauge. I was going to see how much I could salvage from the YJ as far as fuel tubing but I will only be able to use the bit from the engine to the chassis. The plan is to put the fuel filter back near the tank in the stock YJ location or in front of the tank at the frame cross member.

Cleaned up AX15 and D300


All the bits from the D300


Test fit to check interference (I'll be bending that shifter)


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Here's the cleaned up fuel tank all back in. I'm tinkering with the YJ fuel lines to see what I can salvage and what has to be new.

Here's the YJ fuel pump. It will fit in the CJ tank without anything on it but that's it. I'll have to find a thinner one.
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An alternative idea is to buy a generic external fuel pump and run it with the stock CJ tank, sender unit and sock filter. You can mount it on the frame near the tank and it will work a treat.
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Unread 06-23-2012, 04:58 PM   #30
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I got the engine back this week. Now I can get back to something other than tinkering around the shed.

I've been thinking about colours for as long as I've been doing this resto and I came across one I really like. I was hoping someone here could help me identify the name of it. I think it would look really nice with my white roof or a tan softtop.


The gold stripes is what did it for me. Although I have an 84 I'd still use that stripe.
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