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Unread 04-10-2013, 07:08 AM   #1
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Counting Cars

Did anyone watch the new episode of counting cars last night. There was an 86 cj renegade in for restoration.

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Unread 04-10-2013, 08:18 AM   #2
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Just missed that part of the show. Saw the whole episode, but Jr asked a homework question...and...barely caught the reveal. Any body got specs?
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Unread 04-10-2013, 08:22 AM   #3
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They really didnt go over any of the details. The owner was barely able to fit between the seat and the steering wheel though. The paint job looked sharp.
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Unread 04-10-2013, 08:59 AM   #4
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There was another thread started last night.

Not only did the owner have to squeeze in between the seat and the steering wheel, but it looks like Danny squeezed every cent out of him too...for basically putting his front end back together, adding a roll cage, and painting it.
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Unread 04-10-2013, 10:36 AM   #5
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Yes, but he did the engine too. And being in the city, prices are always higher than normal. I wish they'd have showed some work being done on it. Heck, I wish the whole show was just about the Jeep and it was a 2 hour special!!
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Unread 04-10-2013, 10:42 AM   #6
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It was a beautiful jeep when it was done....the Guy Cried a little,
When a guy cries you know its worth every penny to him....I sure hope they went back and did
something about the seat for him.
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Unread 04-10-2013, 10:49 AM   #7
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And only 15k a lot cheaper than the 50 k rigs we see on ebay
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Unread 04-10-2013, 11:07 AM   #8
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It looked to me like they did a frame off. The frame was red when it left and black when i came in
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Unread 04-10-2013, 11:29 AM   #9
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It looked nice. It was tastefully done. I wish they would take more time and actually show whats been done to there cars.
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Unread 04-18-2013, 07:22 AM   #10
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Curiosity got the best of me so I sent them an email. I got a feeling of a really poor attitude from them towards an inquiring fan. Here is the correspondence of those emails. You be the judge.

To: info@countskustoms.com
Subject: Jeep questions


Hi guys,

I hang out pretty regularly on a Jeep message board, which tends to be like the ultimate Jeep shop manual. Need an answer, from the first ones in 1945 to the last of them in 1986, someone will have it. There are many builds going on there. Your episode with the 85 Renegade restore caught our attention, and sparked some questions, which is the intent of this email.

We understand that due to time constraints of the show, not much footage is dedicated to the actual meat and bones, skill and detail if you would. And weíre detail oriented guys, as Iím sure you guys are. We were wondering about the details of this Jeep, the extent (scope) of the work and generally what was done to rack up a $10-15k budget, since it looked in fairly good shape yet compared to some of the rust belt beauties weíve seen brought back from near death. I personally am into almost 2 years on a frame off restore of an 82 Renegade and with most of my parts bought I will only be at the $9-10k range, and that includes a new $1900 frame and another grand in 2 diff. lockers.

So I was wondering if you could give us what the show couldnít, and thatís some of the details that made that beauty shine and itís owner shed a tear.

Thanks man and you guys turn out some great lookiní rides. Kudos to the entire staff.

--Denny
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From: Kevin Mack [mailto:kevin@countskustoms.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:29 PM
To: 'Denny'
Subject: RE: Jeep questions


It simple we charge big money for paint and body work. Anytime we paint something the body work has to be perfect per Danny.

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From: Denny
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:42 PM
To: 'Kevin Mack'
Subject: RE: Jeep questions


Thatís a joke right? Because my questions were in all seriousness. I wasnít busting on the show. And I know you did more than just paint and bodywork, that much was shown.

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From: Kevin Mack [mailto:kevin@countskustoms.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:55 PM
To: 'Denny'
Subject: RE: Jeep questions

A joke, I really donít have time Dennis Iím answering 600 emails. We did a full roll cage custom, motor work, exhaust work, and interior.
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Unread 04-18-2013, 07:26 AM   #11
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I like Danny on the show, but what does Kevin actually do there in the shop?
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Unread 04-18-2013, 07:55 AM   #12
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Apparently nothing but answering emails and offending fans!
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Unread 04-18-2013, 08:13 AM   #13
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Kevin seems like an arrogant d-bag.

That said, it seems clear that Dennis' $9-10K budget was just for parts. The shows budget was for parts AND labor costs.

I hate to even think what I've spent on my CJ, especially if I factor in my time at a reasonable rate.

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Unread 04-18-2013, 09:04 AM   #14
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IMO; I think they missed the mark with the roll cage. They failed to take into consideration the owners size and built the seat back support hoop too far forward so the seat won't go back far. I'd bet he rips that out our has it fixed so he can drive it.

I didn't see too much joking in his original response, it sounded pretty honest. The paint work is pretty nice and the paint is what everyone sees and that alone can sell the shop for new customers after the show is over. I was shocked to see the $2k+ price tag to paint the soapbox car this week.
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Unread 04-18-2013, 10:11 AM   #15
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Kevin seems like an arrogant d-bag.

That said, it seems clear that Dennis' $9-10K budget was just for parts. The shows budget was for parts AND labor costs.

I hate to even think what I've spent on my CJ, especially if I factor in my time at a reasonable rate.

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Kevin is the general manager and the bald guy that rides around with Danny looking for cars.
You have to remember too, at least $3-4k of my parts he didn't need. I just can't see a paint job and a little body work worth $5k+

19jeep85 - That may be part of the reason. The inflated costs because of the name. It's the status tax! The same paint job would probably be half that outside of Vegas and the cameras.
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