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post #1 of 16 Old 05-13-2008, 06:58 PM Thread Starter
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Confusion re. CJ

I looked at a Jeep today and the owner represented the vehicle as a 1980 with the "Iron Duke" Chevy 4 cylinder engine. The word "Wrangler" was on the vehicle. I didn't think the Wranglers were made in 1980. If so, can someone tell me how the 1980 Wrangler is different from the 1980 CJ?

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post #2 of 16 Old 05-13-2008, 07:08 PM
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Unless I'm mistaken the Wranglers came after the CJ. I think 86 was the last year for the CJs and 87 is when the wrangler showed up.

An easy way to tell is the headlights. If they are round then it is a CJ that probably just got stickers put on it. If they are square then its a YJ Wrangler (87+).

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Iron Duke is technically a Pontiac engine.
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There is no such thing as a 1980 Wrangler. The Wrangler name didn't show up until '87 and are Chryslers. The Iron Duke would be CJ. It's most likely an '80 CJ with a Wrangler sticker

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It is not at all a wrangler. They started in 87 as the yj, some idiot put that sticker on, OR there was a YJ tub swapped onto the CJ7 frame and they never took the sticker off. If the tub was swapped, that is a good thing. But the rest is still a CJ.

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was the word "wrangler" on the tub? could have had the ever popular tub swap. which brings me to recall seeing recently, a cj5 with a wrangler front ... square headlights and all

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Wanglers started in 1987, they were made by AMC for a short time and then sold to chrysler that same year.

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Unless I'm mistaken the Wranglers came after the CJ. I think 86 was the last year for the CJs and 87 is when the wrangler showed up.

An easy way to tell is the headlights. If they are round then it is a CJ that probably just got stickers put on it. If they are square then its a YJ Wrangler (87+).

Yes, Wranglers came after the CJ. But the square headlights lasted from 1987 to 1995 when after so much public outcry about hating the square headlights, they switched back to round headlights on the 1997 TJ and then the JK. There's no such thing as a 1996 Wrangler. Use that as a bar bet - tell someone you drive a 96 Wrangler. The Wrangler was sidelined for a design overhaul.

BTW, what does JK stand for? Just Kidding?

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which brings me to recall seeing recently, a cj5 with a wrangler front ... square headlights and all
That is a crime, or at least should be.

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There is a guy (haven't been able to meet him) who works in my building that has a CJ front end and a YJ tub with all the stickers, not sure which way the switch went, but it looks stupid to me knowing the CJ front end.

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the "iron duke" is the 151 ci GM engine, so named for its cast iron block and head, virtually bullet proof but very weak as an engine for a CJ-7
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was the word "wrangler" on the tub? could have had the ever popular tub swap. which brings me to recall seeing recently, a cj5 with a wrangler front ... square headlights and all
WOW

A CJ 5 with a wrangler front clip. Talk about sucking ugly! you would have to replace the fenders, and the hood as well as the grill. Wow, that would be really odd to see too.
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OK...front clip? tub? I've got no experience with Jeeps so please explain.
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post #14 of 16 Old 05-14-2008, 07:00 AM
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The tub is everything behind the hood to the tailgate. The hood front fenders and grill are called the front clip.

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