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Unread 06-30-2011, 05:20 PM   #1471
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Unread 06-30-2011, 10:34 PM   #1472
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Nice job, Clay! Those test coupons look good!

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Unread 07-01-2011, 07:34 AM   #1473
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Serious hunks of metal welded together and nary a crack after the test bends. Very well done!!
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Unread 07-01-2011, 07:40 AM   #1474
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Good job, Clay.

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Unread 07-01-2011, 08:57 AM   #1475
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Unread 07-02-2011, 11:02 AM   #1476
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Clay and I had some Jeep work planned this morning. We pulled the tub and started prepping the underside. A couple of things jumped out immediately. Former PO repairs, the inevitable CJ oil stain, spiders, and the biggest problem, a Gremlin!

Wifey made a run to town and picked up "stuff" for us, then ran inside and was ill! This is the second time this has happened to her after eating some home grown eggs. A friend gave us 6 dozen eggs!! Nobody else got sick, which is good, but it makes a tough day when Mama is sick.

My neighbor's worthless child is over here today. I DO NOT LIKE this boy...he is only 9. His father is a joke! Pray for me.

The biggest problem I found was this Gremlin! It was hard getting him out of the Jeep!


Then there was these spiders from a mud dobbers nest. Creepy!


The circled areas are factory pieces installed for forward tub mounts. They are poorly designed. We will have to strengthen them.


This is how to PO attempted to repair the passenger side tub mount. They were originally factory riveted. Does anybody have an idea of the brand of this glass tub?


The PO repair on the Driver's side. He used some kind of epoxy??


Clay using my sander/grinder with 36 grit. We decided we should pressure wash first!


Shots in the sun.


Bottom of tub with the well preserved tranny tunnel.


That's where we are right now. Time to get back to work!
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Unread 07-02-2011, 11:41 AM   #1477
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Looks to me like you're walkin around the yard takin pictures while Clay is working and Fallon is catching snakes.

The bottom doesn't look all that bad Scott. A good cleaning and take care of the problem areas and you guys ought to be in good shape.

Sorry Beth is sick again. I hate to ask but is she pregnant? Oh I bet that goes over good and no doubt you'll tell her what I said.
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Unread 07-02-2011, 12:42 PM   #1478
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Looks to me like you're walkin around the yard takin pictures while Clay is working and Fallon is catching snakes.

The bottom doesn't look all that bad Scott. A good cleaning and take care of the problem areas and you guys ought to be in good shape.

Sorry Beth is sick again. I hate to ask but is she pregnant? Oh I bet that goes over good and no doubt you'll tell her what I said.
You got it right, Jim. I did a lot of coaching and fussing. My kids move slow! We have a lot of holes to patch. The I'm thinking spatter paint. And nope... she's not pregnant. I had her spayed about 9 years ago!! Sometihg with the eggs. We'll probably never have eggs in the house again!!


Oh yeah... tub is now pressure washed. Did it while standing in fire ants! If you're gonna be dumb... you gotta be tough!
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Unread 07-02-2011, 03:50 PM   #1479
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HAH!!! I was gonna throw out the pregnant joke!!! Jim beat me to it!!! As for the supports, just check out what I did for mine… oh wait, I have a metal tub… hehehehe good luck with the FG… aI know you will figure that out easily!!!

Thanks for the PM, went to the movies with the boys today, saw Mr Poppers Penguins… a dad/kid movie!!! It was good time, in light of what we have been talking about. On the board to catch up with the builds, you know, the addiction, now off to spend some more time with the fam before work.

Keep up the good work on that thing!!!!
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Unread 07-02-2011, 04:37 PM   #1480
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I need some help with this decision... what do ya'll think??

These areas in red are double-walled. They have a factory piece of plywood sandwiched between the glass. The two parallel areas are factory body mount areas. The vertical piece is a stringer for stiffening the tub. All of this wood is rotten.

1) We can cut out the glass, remove the rotted wood, replace it, and glass it back up. Then add stringers to the bottom of the tub for strength.

2) We can remove the double-walled stuff. Remove the rotten wood. Cover the entire area with 3/4 marine plywood, and glass it. This would give strength and mounting points.

3) Suggestions???

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Unread 07-02-2011, 05:25 PM   #1481
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I think either idea works good Scott. I am leaning towards the stringers though, kinda like what you did on the other spots.
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Unread 07-02-2011, 05:27 PM   #1482
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My fiberglass tub has plywood sandwiched in the entire area. So, apparently, that's how some of the manufacturers built them.

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Unread 07-02-2011, 06:05 PM   #1483
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My fiberglass tub has plywood sandwiched in the entire area. So, apparently, that's how some of the manufacturers built them.

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The whole square bed area?? Thanks, Rich... that's good to know.
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Unread 07-02-2011, 08:02 PM   #1484
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The whole square bed area?? Thanks, Rich... that's good to know.
I remember seeing plywood, or some composite material when I made an access cover for my fuel sending unit. So, I just went out to the garage to make sure.

Here are a couple of pictures showing wood beneath the FG floor...





In this next pic, the cover cutout is in the recessed area, inboard of that nut and bolt hanging down...



So, the raised border around the recessed area is another type of reinforcement. Here's another pic...



The wood is only about 3/8" thick, so you may not need to go with 3/4" unless you want BEEFY!

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Unread 07-02-2011, 11:00 PM   #1485
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3/4 would definitely be beefy! It could also cause a height problem at the puck, adding a half inch or so of extra height, making the back of the tub sit higher than the front. I'll have to study on it. The original glass is "soft" and used up from the sun. The bed area flexes pretty significantly (IMO) and I want to make it rigid. Maybe I'll just go with some 3/4" stringers and stick with factory wood thickness for the mounting areas. Thanks for posting the pics, Rich. That gives me a better idea of what I need to do.
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