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Unread 05-10-2011, 09:23 PM   #1396
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Yall are sure putting the love to that windsheld frame! I would have melted it for scrap a while ago. Good job!
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You and me both! Gotta love Scotts dedication!
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Unread 05-10-2011, 09:26 PM   #1397
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It really looks good! How many man hours total do you think you have in it?
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Unread 05-10-2011, 09:33 PM   #1398
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Beautiful! Scott, you now have a market niche. I will send you mine this Fall.
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Unread 05-14-2011, 06:34 PM   #1399
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It really looks good! How many man hours total do you think you have in it?
No MAN hours... just BOY hours! I don't know MoC. Quite a few for sure. if it wasn't for AJ and his initial help we would still be working on it! Clay found some primer that started flaking up, so we're not out of the woods yet.

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Beautiful! Scott, you now have a market niche. I will send you mine this Fall.
Oh Great!! But seriously, I would try!!

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Unread 05-14-2011, 06:45 PM   #1400
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Wonder why the primer is flaking? What kind of primer did you use? It really does look great Scott.
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Unread 05-14-2011, 07:04 PM   #1401
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BEWARE! Lots of pics ahead...

In spite of the foul weather today, Clay and I got some real good work done. We would STILL be working but Mom kinda killed the desire! She put a pork loin on the smoker.... it is the last of Clay's hog from the early pics on this thread.

Clay and I figured out how we were going to create a reinforced mount area for the body bushings, eliminate the potential for rotting wood, make the tub set on all the bushings, and add general strength to the tub.

I set up my fan to help blow away the glass dust, and we gave ourselves a good, heavy coating of baby powder. With dust masks and safety glasses we got busy...

The first problem was making a flat area for the bolt and washer on this tub mount. We have to remove this lip.


Showing how the stock bushings will not touch the tub. Same problem on both sides. I guess that's a GOOD thing!



Going to use this 18" long piece of 2X6 PT. The bushings are not inline with each other, and I want to eliminate multiple pieces here, so a 2X6 gets it done... wide enough to hit both bushings.


Clay cutting out the floor with a die-grinder.


A useful tool!


New hole in floor with both bushings visible.


Test fit...


Showing how both bushings make good contact.


You can use any tool you want... we used three different ones, but you have to have 3"-4" of good, clean glass to overlap your glass repair. This is for strength.


Another test fit. I beveled the edge of the wood. It is DIFFICULT to bend heavy glass around a 90* angle, so smooth the transition from plane to plane. Glass will "pucker" on a 90. I just used my floor sander to round the edge. It could have been done better with a router.


Clay doing some custom fitting.


An example of fitting... showing a beveled edge.


This area is deep, and even with the 2X6 there is quite a bit of space left open. These 1X4 PT pieces are for a filler. Factory used Luaun plywood (1/4"). It is NOT durable, and is NOT a good filler. We won't have that problem!


More filler pieces and notched wood for access to bolt and washer. Clay's side looks different... probably better!


Using this glass to fill gaps.


Cut the "stray" pieces of glass into a more usable size. This stuff came off the edges of some heavy mat.


Showing the glass fibers shoved into "pockets" to act as a filler. This is for added strength. There is still plenty more to do!


Just showing the original plug put back into place. We're not ready for it yet, but this is how it will go.




Like I said, we would have gone farther, but I am too bloated from marinated pork loin! And the shower felt soooo good! We'll pick up some cheapo paint brushes to use with the resin. Once we have the glass work done on the top, we'll complete it when we flip the tub. More to come...
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Unread 05-14-2011, 07:26 PM   #1402
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You guys did get allot done. So you'll have a good enough bond around that bolt head to keep it from turning when you mount the tub and tighten the nuts. You could also use something threaded too couldn't you Scott? This is getting even more interesting. I'm watchin!
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Unread 05-14-2011, 07:38 PM   #1403
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Thanks, Jim. It's kind of a "design-as-you-go" process. I can't tell you how many nights I have laid in bed thinking about what to do! I finally worked it out and got started. Clay is doing the DS after watching me. His side is a little tighter than mine since he is not making the same mistakes. I will probably notch the wood a bit more at the bolt head to allow for the floor plug to be replaced. We want to be able to put a socket on the bolt. All that area will be glassed and strong when we're done. And BTW- the washer is used for setting it up. We won't put those rusty parts back on!
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Unread 05-14-2011, 07:42 PM   #1404
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Wonder why the primer is flaking? What kind of primer did you use? It really does look great Scott.
The primer is lacquer primer from Oreilys. It's good stuff. I'm sure we missed a spot when we were degreaing or something. No biggie, but aggravating! And I'm out of space in the shop so it is hard to store primed parts without getting them filthy or scratched.
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Unread 05-14-2011, 11:39 PM   #1405
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Scott, you might want to check the compatibility of the primer and the paint that's going to be used. It might not make a difference, I'm not sure.

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Scott, you might want to check the compatibility of the primer and the paint that's going to be used. It might not make a difference, I'm not sure.

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That's a Big 10-4 Rubber Duck! Clay can't decide what color he wants! First it was red, then it was/is green, but now he's talking OD or camo!! Whatever we do we'll make sure it works with this primer.
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Unread 05-15-2011, 08:20 AM   #1407
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Are you guys painting it? Rattle can or from a auto paint store. The reason I ask. When I went to the paint store, ( using a base coat/clear coat) the counter person ask what primer I was using. I was using Dupli-color, well he changed my mind. Still used a rattle can primer, one that he said was good with the paint. Sanded all the Dupli- color off and reprimed.

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Scott I've been looking at your support and wondering something. The wood and the surrounding glass, are they on the same level? Since the wieght of the tub will always be pushing down on the 2x6 should you tie it in everywhere? Like maybe even run some 1/4" x 2" flat steel across the wood and onto the glass and bond that in there too?

Maybe you already have that covered, if so never mind me.
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Scott I've been looking at your support and wondering something. The wood and the surrounding glass, are they on the same level? Since the wieght of the tub will always be pushing down on the 2x6 should you tie it in everywhere? Like maybe even run some 1/4" x 2" flat steel across the wood and onto the glass and bond that in there too?

Maybe you already have that covered, if so never mind me.
You're dead-on Jim! They are not the same level. The factory had used a 1/4" piece of plywood between the two glass layers. It rotted out and created a void. In addition, the floor slopes downward as it goes toward the back of the tub, creating an even larger gap. The 3/4" 1X4s help fill that bigger gap in the back. We have some heavy mat to apply that will take up a lot of space. Then I have some heavy chop to apply on top of that. I will probably use a 1/4" piece of plywood as a filler too (wasn't planning on it, however) because it fits well. Once all the glass is done on the inside, and the filler (wood) material is in place, we will reattach the original plug that we removed from the floor. It will be stronger than factory on the inside, and once we turn it over and finish it from the bottom, it will be bullet-proof!




Here are some pictures from today's adventure! With all the English Sparrows swirling around the sky it was hard to get Clay in the shop!! Our goal this evening was to tack down the wood in a semi-finished state. Since we went through so much hassle to get the tub aligned, we couldn't pull the tub and do this on a stand... we had to do it on the frame to make sure our mounting holes stayed in alignment. Now that we have the mounting structure where it won't move, and the holes are where they need to be, I can feel better about working on this thing. I was afraid to lean on it too hard for fear of moving it on the frame, knocking the tub out of square! We're nearly out of resin. We used the last paint brush. And we need more glass! So this week we will just go out to the shop and look at it... sort of admire our work!

These are just pics of Clay doing his side. He really got into as he went. He made a mistake and I corrected him... and he reached down and grabbed the wet glass to move it before it kicked off!! He looked like a cat with a piece of tape on its paw!

Clay is screwing down the wood to keep it from moving around when he lays the glass down.


This is actually my side, but this is what it would look like.


Here Clay is dabbing resin into the cut fibers he shoved into the voids.


Clay painted the wood with a layer of resin to seal it, then he applied strips of heavy mat to the joints. He was hurrying and I corrected him, and he grabbed the strip and moved it with his fingers to get it right. I don't know what he THOUGHT was going to happen, but from that moment on, anything he grabbed he couldn't turn loose!!


Clay is finishing up his second strip.


A layer of 3 oz chop over the top of the mat strips and the wood body. This will seal the large "pores" in the mat, and better join the mat to the wood.


This is done for the night. We will add another layer of mat, and another layer of chop, then the 1/4" plywood. The plywood will be coated in resin to seal it and make it water proof. Then the floor plug will go back in place.



To be continued...
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