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Unread 11-11-2010, 08:29 PM   #706
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Jeff, is that the service TRUCK with the BOOM on it?

We're not talking P/U here guys.
SHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

A smaller one than mine. My regular truck was in the shop.

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Unread 11-11-2010, 08:57 PM   #707
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I distinctly remember the ground shaking when he wheeled his rig into my driveway. I thought the entire logging crew that's working down the road was pulling in all at once. It's true his tailgate is only 8" tall, but it's also 4' above the ground, and I think the "boom" was actually a 10,000# crane! The first thing Jeff said when he fell out of his truck (Jeff ain't real tall!) was something about it being a borrowed truck... that it fits into the bed of his regular truck!!! And did I tell you his truck is spotless!?

'appreciate ya, Jeff!
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Unread 11-11-2010, 09:08 PM   #708
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Scott,
I would like to say thanks for your hospitality.
You are one lucky man!
You have a wonderful home, gracious wife and smart well mannered children.
My wife wants the recipe for the onion rings!(me too!)
I was honored that you would have me and hope I get a trip down your way again soon!
The world needs more folks like yall!



The tailgate on my service truck is only 8 inches tall!
Most of what I know about jeeps has come from here!



I'm no hoss, he is just being nice, I'm just big bonned!

I'm in time-out over the 44. No more projects until after the baby comes!


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Thanks for the kind words, Jeff. I consider myself lucky as well... truly blessed. And although your Jeep knowledge may have come from JF, most assuredly mine has, you have the experience and skills to put it to use. You pointed out minor problems before the hood was completely open!! And now I know why my hood stand/prop/leg/retainer thingy won't lock into place. A week at my place and you would put me in good measure! If ya'll get a chance to meet Jeff, do so.
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Unread 11-11-2010, 09:26 PM   #709
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Thanks for the kind words, Jeff. I consider myself lucky as well... truly blessed. And although your Jeep knowledge may have come from JF, most assuredly mine has, you have the experience and skills to put it to use. You pointed out minor problems before the hood was completely open!! And now I know why my hood stand/prop/leg/retainer thingy won't lock into place. A week at my place and you would put me in good measure! If ya'll get a chance to meet Jeff, do so.
Wish I was there, I enjoy meeting and hanging out with fellow Jeepers. If I would have known I would have drove across to meet Jeff.

I did make progress on my project today! Got Jims Shackle Hangers installed, and did it without having to weld for the extra rear bolt hole. The sway bar mount bracket is fixed and ready to be installed. The frame is ready to be coated with Chassis Saver finally!
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Unread 11-19-2010, 09:32 PM   #710
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Finally got off my sorry good-for-nothing-buttocks and got some work done on Clay's rig. Hood and dash are in HB primer. Have to get more. Thinking about webbing-out the underside of the hood, inside fenders, and firewall. I understand that you can buy the paint. I think it would be a neat effect.

Clay signed up for a 16 week welding course at the local community college. He is dual enrolled there, and as long as he is dual-enrolled, the class is free!

After looking at dashs on Double D Fab website, Clay is determined to make his own. We have AutoCad 2008 on our computer and Clay has a basic level certification. So he's excited!

Pics later...
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Unread 11-19-2010, 09:36 PM   #711
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Sweet! Will he have access to a cnc plasma or water jet? Think he would think about making two dashes if I provide the design?
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Unread 11-20-2010, 06:45 AM   #712
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Sweet! Will he have access to a cnc plasma or water jet? Think he would think about making two dashes if I provide the design?
To be more clear, we are a long way from making a dash. Clay's immediate goal is making the "kicker" that welds to the dash, not a whole dash. Clay won't have access to CNC or anything else. The class he is taking will be in the spring semester, and it's just a beginner weldor class. I am contemplating buying a tabletop brake.

The biggest part of this, and in my opinion the best, is the sudden direction Clay is finding for his life. At 16, he has an idea what he wants to do. He WANTS to be a Fireman! With a little fab work on the side that might actually pay!
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Unread 11-20-2010, 06:50 AM   #713
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That is cool, I have wanted to take a welding course for the last 10-15 years and probably need it
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Unread 11-20-2010, 06:59 AM   #714
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That is cool, I have wanted to take a welding course for the last 10-15 years and probably need it
I had welding (gas, stick and intro to Mig, Tig) and metal fab (manufacturing) in college as part of the industrial side of my degree. I keep telling myself that I can do this. But it has been 25 years?? God where has the time gone... Anyway, I don't remember anything. I want to take the class with him, but for me it's a $1000!! So maybe one day Clay will let me play in HIS shop!
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Unread 11-20-2010, 09:24 AM   #715
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..Clay signed up for a 16 week welding course at the local community college. He is dual enrolled there, and as long as he is dual-enrolled, the class is free!
That's fantastic. That's the kind of opportunity I wish I'd followed when I was still in school.
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Unread 11-20-2010, 09:42 AM   #716
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Fireman is the way to go!!! If I had it to do over (and I have thought of ways to try and change now, it's just a little too late in my life), I would be a fireman!!! I know a lot of Fire guys that have side gigs... they work a job, get medical benefits and great retirement and do what they enjoy on the side. That's not to say they don't enjoy the fire science, it's just to say that is their "paid" job. Good to hear that Clay is looking for direction in his life!!! I work with High Schoolers at church, and I see a lot that just think they will get by when the opportunity is handed to them, instead of actively seeking opportunities. It may be a regional thing, but it's more likely that he seams to have a good relationship with his dad!!! You da man Scott!!!

OK, since there has been work on the Jeep, why aren't we seeing pictures?!?!?!?!?
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Unread 11-20-2010, 10:45 AM   #717
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I had welding (gas, stick and intro to Mig, Tig) and metal fab (manufacturing) in college as part of the industrial side of my degree. I keep telling myself that I can do this. But it has been 25 years?? God where has the time gone... Anyway, I don't remember anything. I want to take the class with him, but for me it's a $1000!! So maybe one day Clay will let me play in HIS shop!
Scott have you got a welder? If you do then get that thing fired up and start welding. What you learned will come back to you. For a long time I used a stick welder for everything I made and it worked great. Although I got tired of chipping slag. It doesn't cost allot to get started in welding either.

Congratulations to Clay!!
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congats to clay, that sounds great, and it's a skill set that will serve him his entire life
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That's fantastic. That's the kind of opportunity I wish I'd followed when I was still in school.
I'm right there with ya, Ken!

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Fireman is the way to go!!! If I had it to do over (and I have thought of ways to try and change now, it's just a little too late in my life), I would be a fireman!!! I know a lot of Fire guys that have side gigs... they work a job, get medical benefits and great retirement and do what they enjoy on the side. That's not to say they don't enjoy the fire science, it's just to say that is their "paid" job. Good to hear that Clay is looking for direction in his life!!! I work with High Schoolers at church, and I see a lot that just think they will get by when the opportunity is handed to them, instead of actively seeking opportunities. It may be a regional thing, but it's more likely that he seams to have a good relationship with his dad!!! You da man Scott!!!

OK, since there has been work on the Jeep, why aren't we seeing pictures?!?!?!?!?
Thanks, Bud. I agree with you, and Clay and I discussed it last night. He really wants to work with his hands. The problem for me is that I worked with my back, and it never brought me anything. if Clay can get good with manufacturing, then the fireman gig might be just what he needs. That's what he really wants to do!

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Scott have you got a welder? If you do then get that thing fired up and start welding. What you learned will come back to you. For a long time I used a stick welder for everything I made and it worked great. Although I got tired of chipping slag. It doesn't cost allot to get started in welding either.

Congratulations to Clay!!
My welder is a little 110A job. I don't seem to have a problem with anything so far, but it doesn't weld heavy stuff. AJ can make it do it, but I can't!

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congats to clay, that sounds great, and it's a skill set that will serve him his entire life
I agree with you. It's a good excuse to get a 180A welder too!


AJ came over this afternoon. I was getting ready to head to the woods... but when AJ comes over you need to rethink your day!

Clay and I sprayed two coats of HB primer on the hood yesterday evening. AJ shook his head and went home to get tools! He came back with his random orbital air sander (now there's another tool I need!), a bona-fide BOX of sticky paper for it, and a short piece of air line. Then he proceeded to sand off pretty much ALL of the primer we had sprayed. Actually, he taught me quite a bit this evening. He is coming back tomorrow to SHOW me, because he can't explain it, the proper way to do the body work. Good thing I bought another quart of HB primer today! Then Sonny showed up with two (that woudl be 2...) 2 bottles of homemade peach brandy! Geeeeeeeez!

Going over to Johnny's to play music now. Jeep can wait until tomorrow!
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Unread 11-21-2010, 04:18 PM   #720
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AJ came back over today and did a great deal of work. Clay and I spent the day pretty much watching him! He made 5 trips home to bring back materials, tools, etc, and he went to work on the hood. Then he started on a fender. He showed us how to remove the rough areas without gouging the workpiece. He showed us how to remove the Bondo without removing too much. He aslo showed us the right way to mix the Bondo and apply an effective skim coat. I keep thinking that Clay's Jeep is going to be nicer than we had planned, being as how Clay wants it done so he can drive it! AJ has taken a personal interest in it. They are talking Candy Apple Red instead of International Red. I didn't take a lot of pics since we'd be beating a dead horse at this point, but here are some pics of today's work. This is AJ's work.

AJ grinding down the FG slop that Clay and I made when rebuilding the fenders!


I never thought about the visible part of the fender when we repaired the PO's damage, so AJ is removing all of that extra resin.


First Bondo... AJ ain't shy about it!


I had gouged the gelcoat with 24 grit paper when I removed the PO's original rattle-can paint. AJ is fixing it. He first sanded with 80 grit to remove much of the scratches, then the Bondo. I SHOULD HAVE USED 180 TO REMOVE THE ORIGINAL PAINT! Would have saved a LOT of work!


Making the transition at the lip.


AJ ground down the hood, sanded it, skim coated it, sanded it some more, wiped it down with prepaint cleaner, and primered it again. I think that makes 6 times we've had primer on the hood... used over a quart of primer on just the hood. That will tell you that good prep from the start will save time and money. Here is Clay glazing the hood. No more homemade brews!



Here is the hood with black rattle-can for a blocking coat.


And just a reference shot...


Overall it was a great day. I can see I need to get some more tools to be effective, and I need to work smarter. Hope I can produce some comparatively nice work on the pieces to come...
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