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Unread 03-30-2013, 08:10 PM   #4786
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http://www.bigrigchromeshop.com/Merc...UESBFS/UP10959

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Screen shot of the gander mountain step.

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Unread 03-30-2013, 08:29 PM   #4787
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Figures they would be EZ to find! When I googled "Jeep step" you can imagine all I got was.....well Jeep sidesteps.

Thanks again Bill.

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Unread 03-31-2013, 09:30 AM   #4788
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Here ya go Scotty. The center line of the step is 8.250" back from the center line of the lower door hinge ( the bolts)


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The 1/4"x6" body armor drops below the tub to provide enough room for the 1/2"x2" clip to be welded on.

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This is how I tied to the frame.

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Front ^



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Middle, on this one and the rear I welded a angle iron clip to the frame.


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Where the steel meets the tub, around the bolt holes, I put a 3/8" bead of black RTV , and let it set up overnight. I then bolted them on.

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1980 CJ5 trail Jeep.
1983 CJ7 pretty weekend and sometimes to work Driver in the summer, My first rebuild, if the Q-trac and 5 are broke, this one is the one to take. its just as capable as the other 2, except nice paint.
1984 Grand Wagoneer, 1 ton axles, great 360/727, and a big a$& tree fell on it .
1989 YJ the CJ to YJ conversion.
2005 TJ Rubicon.
2011 Grand Cherokee Laredo 4x4, Mrs. LUCDOG's DD.
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Unread 03-31-2013, 09:41 AM   #4789
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Bill dontya think a handicap ramp would be better for the ole geezer?
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Unread 03-31-2013, 09:57 AM   #4790
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Bill dontya think a handicap ramp would be better for the ole geezer?
I do, but it's Easter, I'm trying to be nice today!

I put these on both sides, I don't use the one on my side, it was just to match the passenger side. ( Miss Vicki is even more vertical challenged than I).

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1973 J 4000,
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1979 CJ7 360, TH400/Quadratrac trail Jeep.
1979 J20
1980 CJ5 trail Jeep.
1983 CJ7 pretty weekend and sometimes to work Driver in the summer, My first rebuild, if the Q-trac and 5 are broke, this one is the one to take. its just as capable as the other 2, except nice paint.
1984 Grand Wagoneer, 1 ton axles, great 360/727, and a big a$& tree fell on it .
1989 YJ the CJ to YJ conversion.
2005 TJ Rubicon.
2011 Grand Cherokee Laredo 4x4, Mrs. LUCDOG's DD.
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Unread 03-31-2013, 05:24 PM   #4791
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Thanks, Bill. It's much sleeker than the one I am making!

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Unread 04-07-2013, 04:27 PM   #4792
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Hey Guys.... question, please.

I am investigating the wandering Clay still has in the front of his Jeep. After watching everything move this evening I notice the shackles torque sideways, back and forth. I don't remember seeing this before the steering box brace install. How much movement should there be at this point? The shackle bushings were new bushings that came with the RC 2.5" lift springs. FEW miles on them. Everything else was new at the same time as these bushings. Balljoints, TRE, are confirmed good. Steering shaft is good. The steering box, with new brace, still has a very brief amount of movement. Should it be zero? The shackles are 3/8" lift Performance something-or-other. Tie rod is new. New steering box. Etc, etc... My 7 is much tighter than Clay's 5, and they have identical front ends, literally! Same lift, bushings, shackles, etc., except the shackle bushings on my 7 are poly.
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I don't remember Scott, but have you checked the holes in the factory pump mount itself? They wallow out over time and no matter how tight you get them they will move.
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Unread 04-07-2013, 04:49 PM   #4794
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Your caster is good right?
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Unread 04-07-2013, 06:53 PM   #4795
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I don't remember Scott, but have you checked the holes in the factory pump mount itself? They wallow out over time and no matter how tight you get them they will move.
No... I haven't checked those, but that makes sense. The bolts go through the mount easily enough.

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Your caster is good right?
No... castor is not good. Steering wheel does not return on its own. Forgot about that. Bill's gonna give me a hard time! Sorry in advance, Bill.


Is the side-to-side shackle movement normal?
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Unread 04-07-2013, 06:55 PM   #4796
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I don't think that the steering gearbox should move at all. How can it move unless there's something whacky going on with the brace?

Does the entire gearbox and brace wiggle, or just where the pitman arm attaches?

I forget....do you have power steering?

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Unread 04-07-2013, 07:11 PM   #4797
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I don't think that the steering gearbox should move at all. How can it move unless there's something whacky going on with the brace?

Does the entire gearbox and brace wiggle, or just where the pitman arm attaches?

I forget....do you have power steering?

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The entire gearbox moves, the whole unit, sideways, but not as in the bolts are sliding in the holes. More like the frame is bending, torquing kind of movement. The frame is not bending, however. I watched the top two frame holes (adjacent to the grill) in the crossmember, and I could see no flex at that point. The shackle mounting points are solid and not moving (Crabtree shackle hangers). The movement is very slight. Yes, power steering...
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I do know the longer the shackles are the more the chance they will move.

So we have the proper info.

The shackles are moving when you turn the steering wheel.
And, the steering box is also moving, even with the addition of the brace.
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1979 J20
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1983 CJ7 pretty weekend and sometimes to work Driver in the summer, My first rebuild, if the Q-trac and 5 are broke, this one is the one to take. its just as capable as the other 2, except nice paint.
1984 Grand Wagoneer, 1 ton axles, great 360/727, and a big a$& tree fell on it .
1989 YJ the CJ to YJ conversion.
2005 TJ Rubicon.
2011 Grand Cherokee Laredo 4x4, Mrs. LUCDOG's DD.
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Unread 04-07-2013, 07:15 PM   #4799
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I do know the longer the shackles are the more the chance they will move.

So we have the proper info.

The shackles are moving when you turn the steering wheel.
And, the steering box is also moving, even with the addition of the brace.
Yes, the shackles move side-to-side when the wheels turn. Keep in mind, the front of the Jeep is on the ground with the engine running, turning lock to lock. The bushings are "pinched" at the top shackle bolt, and the movement is very pronounced where the spring attaches to the shackle. I expect you would HAVE to have SOME movement, being a leverage point, but I was surprised how much is there.

See post above yours Bill for more info on gearbox.
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No... castor is not good. Steering wheel does not return on its own. Forgot about that. Bill's gonna give me a hard time! Sorry in advance, Bill.

Is the side-to-side shackle movement normal?
Didn't mean to get you in trouble

My shackles move side to side a good amount, but I don't really have wander, but my shackles are stock length.
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