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Unread 03-13-2013, 06:49 AM   #4771
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Home Wednesday ,Thursday and Friday, Indiana with the Jeep on Saturday, work on Sunday.

Not much to it. Mount the box first, then connect the steering shaft, then call me. Make sure all the holes have good threads. :-)

Bill. And check out my thread!
I want a second opinion on mounting up the pitman arm, making sure you have the same amount of swing to either side. The gear box on Clay's Jeep has several slots for the arm, and the arm is curved.

I understand how to install it on the frame and center the wheel.

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got to get that thing up and running so the blond can do more tracks in the grass ha ha. sorry to hear about your troubles.
Always glad to hear your voice Dog. I'm thinking the blonde is history. I'm not clear on that yet!

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Man thats some bad luck on the box Scott.
No more than you've experienced yourself. I feel like we're brothers! Thanks, MoC

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Unread 03-13-2013, 07:14 AM   #4772
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No more than you've experienced yourself. I feel like we're brothers! Thanks, MoC
Yep, the Marx brothers come to mind.....

Mornin' gents.

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Unread 03-13-2013, 07:26 AM   #4773
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I know that you know. After the box and steering shaft are on, go up to the steering wheel and turn it all the way to the left until the steering box won't let it turn anymore.
Counting each complete turn (360*)and Partial turn of the wheel rotate the wheel to the right until it stops. It should be a little over 4 complete rotations. Divide the number of turns in half. Rotate the wheel to the left , the number of turns the division gave you. ( so if it was 4.250 rotations, turn the wheel 2.125)
This centers the box.
The pitman arm can now be installed , the part the TRE goes in, goes toward the rear of the jeep. It may not point straight back, exactly Parallel with the frame rails, but should be close. The torque on the nut is 180/185 foot pounds.

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Unread 03-13-2013, 07:47 PM   #4774
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Yep, the Marx brothers come to mind.....

Mornin' gents.

Matt
Good Evening Matthew. Wondering WHICH Marx brother??

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I know that you know. After the box and steering shaft are on, go up to the steering wheel and turn it all the way to the left until the steering box won't let it turn anymore.
Counting each complete turn (360*)and Partial turn of the wheel rotate the wheel to the right until it stops. It should be a little over 4 complete rotations. Divide the number of turns in half. Rotate the wheel to the left , the number of turns the division gave you. ( so if it was 4.250 rotations, turn the wheel 2.125)
This centers the box.
The pitman arm can now be installed , the part the TRE goes in, goes toward the rear of the jeep. It may not point straight back, exactly Parallel with the frame rails, but should be close. The torque on the nut is 180/185 foot pounds.

Bill
Ahhhh... I understand. I am totally comprehensible today! I was doing the centering in the bench vice. Your way is easier. Thank you, Sir. Picking up new box tomorrow.
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Unread 03-23-2013, 05:56 PM   #4775
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Clay has his steering box installed, and it is a big improvement. Sort of. It felt wonderful at first, but after driving it for a couple of days it feels like the box we removed. We got up-close and personal and learned that the box is moving and shifting under the pressure of turning the steering wheel, so Clay is finishing up his homemade steering box brace. Not installed yet, but it IS laying on the ground under the front of the Jeep. So we're very, very close!

Day before yesterday Clay was going to school when the hood blew up and smacked the WS. Scared the crap outta him! Very nice crunch to the hood!!! There is a big crack in the middle that goes all the way through the glass, and the hood cracked on both sides where I had reinforced with glass very early in the build. So the hood needs a total rework. Clay is already talking about repainting, and he, for some reason which I attribute to Redneck Youth Disease, wants to paint it camo. I have to take the blame for not latching his hood as I think it is my fault. The Jeep came with a central hood latch but I removed it since there was nothing for it to latch to! Guess I'll fabricate something when we refinish the hood down the road.
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Unread 03-23-2013, 06:03 PM   #4776
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Dang that would be scary!! Glad he got it stopped with out any issues. Strange his gearbox is moving. Glad to hear he came up with a solution.
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Unread 03-23-2013, 06:26 PM   #4777
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..Clay was going to school when the hood blew up and smacked the WS. Scared the crap outta him!...
A story from my youth: It was about 1985. A friend from high school had a 1964 1/2 Mustang that had been sitting in her mother's driveway, rotting for about a decade. Getting this car to run was her only chance at having a vehicle to drive.

A friend and I, both mechanically inclined, decided to take on the project. Over the weeks we handled all of the basic work like belts, hoses, spark plugs, and battery. The high point was rebuilding the carburetor on the 289. Finally, with a lawn mower gas can in the trunk, we got the engine running. With one foot firmly on the brake pedal, I put the automatic transmission in gear. The car went...nowhere. Not even a lurch.

Quickly we figured out it had no transmission fluid, so that was an easy fix. Within an hour, we had the car driving down the street.

After hitting maybe 30 MPH, the hood flew open scared the @#$# out of us. It made a great story.

I think about that story *every* time I close the hood on my CJ, because the center hood latch does not work.
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Unread 03-23-2013, 06:38 PM   #4778
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Well that sucks! Back in my youth, (pre 1985 Ken) I was working on my sisters 1967 Ford. Yep the hood came open about 40 mph.

Scott, I thought you were doing the steering brace when I posted the pictures of mine. Glad it's getting fixed now.

Ok, I can't figure this out, the primary hood latch works on everything in my signature.

RYD, I have lingering effects of that to this day.

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1984 Grand Wagoneer, 1 ton axles, great 360/727, and a big a$& tree fell on it .
1989 YJ the CJ to YJ conversion.
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Unread 03-23-2013, 08:15 PM   #4779
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Well that sucks! Back in my youth, (pre 1985 Ken) I was working on my sisters 1967 Ford. Yep the hood came open about 40 mph.

Scott, I thought you were doing the steering brace when I posted the pictures of mine. Glad it's getting fixed now.

Ok, I can't figure this out, the primary hood latch works on everything in my signature.

RYD, I have lingering effects of that to this day.

Bill
No... we never finished it. It has been sitting on the table next to the drill press ever since. But lesson learned... after Clay installed the NEW gear box and tightened it down, and after I told him to put some meat into the wrench, and after he told me "I DID Dad!!", he then SAW the moving gear box with tightened bolts, etc. So the brace got finished. He got very annoyed with me!

RYD= Remember Your...
Driveway?
Dog?
Dill Pickle?
Dingaling?

I give up...
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Unread 03-30-2013, 12:52 PM   #4780
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Had these pictures on my phone.

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1983 CJ7 pretty weekend and sometimes to work Driver in the summer, My first rebuild, if the Q-trac and 5 are broke, this one is the one to take. its just as capable as the other 2, except nice paint.
1984 Grand Wagoneer, 1 ton axles, great 360/727, and a big a$& tree fell on it .
1989 YJ the CJ to YJ conversion.
2005 TJ Rubicon.
2011 Grand Cherokee Laredo 4x4, Mrs. LUCDOG's DD.
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Unread 03-30-2013, 01:53 PM   #4781
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Thanks, Bill. Any chance of you taking pics close-up, using a tape measure? I want to know how far it protrudes when folded. I also want to see the foldig mechanism.
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Unread 03-30-2013, 02:44 PM   #4782
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Thanks, Bill. Any chance of you taking pics close-up, using a tape measure? I want to know how far it protrudes when folded. I also want to see the foldig mechanism.
Get them for you@all's tomorrow.
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1973 J 4000,
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1979 CJ7 360, TH400/Quadratrac trail Jeep.
1979 J20
1980 CJ5 trail Jeep.
1983 CJ7 pretty weekend and sometimes to work Driver in the summer, My first rebuild, if the Q-trac and 5 are broke, this one is the one to take. its just as capable as the other 2, except nice paint.
1984 Grand Wagoneer, 1 ton axles, great 360/727, and a big a$& tree fell on it .
1989 YJ the CJ to YJ conversion.
2005 TJ Rubicon.
2011 Grand Cherokee Laredo 4x4, Mrs. LUCDOG's DD.
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Unread 03-30-2013, 08:38 PM   #4783
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Hey Bill, I have looked around for those folding steps. Ya know where I can find a set?
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Unread 03-30-2013, 08:54 PM   #4784
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Hey Bill, I have looked around for those folding steps. Ya know where I can find a set?
I got them at a truck supply shop. It was called Mutual Wheel in peoria. They had them in stainless, and aluminum.
They might also be found at a big truck stop.
If you can't find any let me know.

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1973 J 4000,
1978 CJ7 DD.
1979 CJ7 360, TH400/Quadratrac trail Jeep.
1979 J20
1980 CJ5 trail Jeep.
1983 CJ7 pretty weekend and sometimes to work Driver in the summer, My first rebuild, if the Q-trac and 5 are broke, this one is the one to take. its just as capable as the other 2, except nice paint.
1984 Grand Wagoneer, 1 ton axles, great 360/727, and a big a$& tree fell on it .
1989 YJ the CJ to YJ conversion.
2005 TJ Rubicon.
2011 Grand Cherokee Laredo 4x4, Mrs. LUCDOG's DD.
Lots of parts not for sale, i'm a hoarder.
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Unread 03-30-2013, 08:57 PM   #4785
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Cool. I love snooping around a truck stop now and again. I will have a look. Thanks Bill!

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