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Unread 11-22-2012, 12:05 PM   #4666
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Happy thanksgiving Kerr clan from the fields clan!! Gotta be thankful for the weather we have for today!

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Unread 11-22-2012, 01:42 PM   #4667
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Happy thanksgiving boys!
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Unread 11-22-2012, 03:06 PM   #4668
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Thanks for the tips on the pan gasket. I am not looking forward to dropping the pan again. Don't know if I can RTV the gasket without jacking up the motor?? At any rate, I was going to let Clay run it awhile until I get motivated to "fix" the gasket again. But I have to do it before everything gets stained from oil! UGH! I hate it when inanimate objects command my life!

Gido... Thanks, Brother. We surely had a good day today. Lots of turkey and food. Oh man... am I miserable! Skeet shooting all afternoon with a ton of kids. A really good day.

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Daniel... you've definitely got style!
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Unread 11-22-2012, 05:25 PM   #4669
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I have more style. Haha look at my thanks giving

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Unread 11-22-2012, 06:53 PM   #4670
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Hey Trent... what's that? A dune buggy?







Congrats, Bud.
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Unread 11-22-2012, 07:05 PM   #4671
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Hey Trent... what's that? A dune buggy?



Congrats, Bud.
Yes. With feet in the pic haha
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Unread 11-25-2012, 12:10 PM   #4672
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Boom now I'm relaxin for sure

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Unread 11-30-2012, 11:23 PM   #4673
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Picked up the inner and outer axle seals for the 20. Clay's pass side is leaking. I THOUGHT it was the wheel cylinder, and I went to AZ for a new one. Although it was no longer warrantied, AZ did so anyway. I have a good relationship with the manager, who told me he would hire me part-time in January!! Okay... that could be good! Anyway, Clay installed the new wheel cylinder while I watched. He gets uptight, sometimes, when I supervise, and it was "one of those days"! So I went and disced the garden some more. He forgot how to put the brakes together, so he pulled my wheel (easiest to get to), and he got it all back in place. When it was apart I discovered the leaking seal. Picked up the proper brake tools for doing drums, rather than lineman's pliers and muscle!

Probably using his Jeep to pull the 4-H float in the Christmas parade tomorrow.

Does anyone want a detailed write-up of changing the seals?
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Unread 12-01-2012, 08:03 AM   #4674
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I had a couple "blouse outs" that broke the gasket. But it still sealed because of all the sealer. I felt like a meathead the whole time I was doing the pan. Next time ill be less sloppy. It's only by gods grace that it sealed so well
I'm a bit late on responding to this, but my oil pan gasket has been leak free since I replaced it so far. This is surprising since my history with the valve cover gasket has been a total failure.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f8/ke...l#post14324576

I used thread to tie the oil pan gasket to the pan temporarily. This held the gasket in place while I got the bolts in. I used RTV at the four spots (on the bottom of the engine) where the pan curves down (around the timing chain cover up front and near the RMS area in the back) (see photo below)

If I had to replace the oil pan gasket while leaving the engine in place, I'd follow this procedure (this is off the top of my head. Forgive me if I have omitted something):
  1. Buy FelPro one piece gasket and RTV (I used red 'high temp')
  2. Warm up engine, while it is hot then drain engine oil for 2 days. Remove oil filter if it is old.
  3. Chock the wheels to prevent vehicle from rolling
  4. Put jack under oil pan
  5. Lift engine just enough to get the motor mount out
  6. lift engine maybe 1/2 inch more
  7. Cut a 2x6 to hold up the front of the engine, under the main pulley.
  8. Cut a 2x6 to hold the rear of the engine at the bellhousing (probably not really needed)
  9. Remove jack and let engine rest on blocks
  10. Remove crossbar (runs between the engine mounts)
  11. Remove oil pan
  12. Let remaining oil drain from engine for a couple of days
  13. Clean pan with soap and water, wipe down with acetone or other solvent
  14. Clean the pan bolts too
  15. Clean oil from bottom of engine with acetone or other solvent. Do this several times.
  16. Tie gasket to pan with heavy duty thread
  17. Put RTV in the correct 4 areas on the bottom of the engine
  18. Install oil pan to engine with a 3 or 4 bolts
  19. Install remaining bolts finger tight
  20. Starting from the middle/center bolts, torque bolts in a circle spiral pattern working outward
  21. (optional) Beer (if weather warm) or red wine (if weather cold)
  22. Let it cure over night or 2 days for good luck
  23. Reinstall motor mount. If neeed, jack engine from ends, not the pan.
  24. Reinstall cross bar.
  25. Fill engine oil, prime and replace oil filter if you removed it.
  26. start engine, check for oil pressure, check for leaks.

    If you have the ability to lift the engine from above, that may be a lot easier than dealing with the wood blocks because those are a real pain.
Here's where I used RTV, but I applied it to the engine, not the pan.
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Unread 12-01-2012, 06:06 PM   #4675
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Wow, Ken... Thanks, Bro. For the life of me I cannot remember if I used RTV on the gasket, and I have no idea if the mechanic did when he did it the second time. Guess I'm going to have to get into it.
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Unread 12-01-2012, 06:17 PM   #4676
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We had a GREAT night! Our local Christmas parade was held this evening. It was PACKED!! Our 4-H club has a float each year, which I usually pull, but I talked Clay into pulling it this time with his CJ. It was a MEGA SUPERTRONIC FANTABULOUS HIT! You shoulda heard the folks commenting on his Jeep as he eased her down the road. Especially the kids! Clay was beaming, and I was all puffed up! Here are some pics of the float prep. The theme was Christmas in Candyland, and of course, we had a Suwannee twist. The kids came up with the idea... a canoe on the Cocoa River (you know... a river made of cocoa!). So brown water, candy pieces, a canoe, and a dozen wayward kids!

Clay did great, remaining in granny the whole trip, a mile and a half. Clutch, gas, clutch, gas... no way my knee would have held up!

The last pics are just some cool things that were also in the parade.
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Unread 12-02-2012, 04:33 AM   #4677
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Skipper Clays Jeep is used as a tug boat to pull a canoe, well Ill be!
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Unread 12-02-2012, 03:22 PM   #4678
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Thanks Ken! Those one-piece gaskets look like the hot ticket.

I was able to lift my engine from above when I did my RMS, and it was so much nicer!

And Scott that Christmas parade float looks like a fun project, and even more fun to pull
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Unread 12-02-2012, 05:04 PM   #4679
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Scott... looks like ya'll had a great time at the parade. Clay's CJ looks great! Maybe mine will look that good one day.
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Unread 12-02-2012, 05:18 PM   #4680
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Thanks Ken! Those one-piece gaskets look like the hot ticket.

I was able to lift my engine from above when I did my RMS, and it was so much nicer!

And Scott that Christmas parade float looks like a fun project, and even more fun to pull
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Scott... looks like ya'll had a great time at the parade. Clay's CJ looks great! Maybe mine will look that good one day.
The parade was good times, and Clay did great pulling the float. And, Bob, your Jeep will be amazing, and will SMOKE Clay's Jeep!
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