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Unread 09-07-2012, 02:19 PM   #4141
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School School School!!!! School is more than just a degree. I can't even begin to describe the things and life skills I learned from school outside of my degree. Find an internship or something part time while going to school.

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Unread 09-07-2012, 03:14 PM   #4142
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School first. I started college in 89 and graduated in 2007. Wish I would have stayed in it the 1st time, but my choices I made are what turned me into the person I am now. Ironnically, 23 years ago today I was on my way to Great Lakes, IL for boot camp.
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Unread 09-07-2012, 04:17 PM   #4143
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X3 for School. I've been fighting finances and time restraints for just over 8 years now trying to finish college, and I'll be graduating this Christmas. If he quits now, yeah, he could be a welder for the forestry service. If he stays in school tho, he could be a supervisor for the forestry service, still get to weld on junk, and make twice as much money (rough guess).
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Unread 09-07-2012, 04:45 PM   #4144
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x3 for school. I've been fighting finances and time restraints for just over 8 years now trying to finish college, and i'll be graduating this christmas. If he quits now, yeah, he could be a welder for the forestry service. If he stays in school tho, he could be a supervisor for the forestry service, still get to weld on junk, and make twice as much money (rough guess).
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Unread 09-07-2012, 08:45 PM   #4145
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My good wishes are for Clay. My son and his girlfriend and my son-in law are B pressure welders excelling in SS tig etc. but none of the above have done any aluminum. Clay is getting into some specialty stuff. Good for him.

My son and his girlfriend are now into QC as inspectors and examiners. They don't work a full year and are in 6 figure incomes working shutdowns as contractors. However schooling is still a large part of it. Welding has been good to them.
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Unread 09-08-2012, 12:24 AM   #4146
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I wish Clay the best on his aluminum welding test(s). I'd love to know what the criteria is for the test is (i.e. is it a bend test, just a visual inspection, or what...). I'd love to share my experiences with aluminum, if you'd like. I am a welding instructor at EB. I teach all the tig students, including structural tig, pipe welding, and aluminum.

I'd love to know what grade of aluminum, what grade of wire, what shielding gas is used, and what welding positions the tests are done in. Good stuff!!

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Unread 09-08-2012, 09:04 AM   #4147
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My good wishes are for Clay. My son and his girlfriend and my son-in law are B pressure welders excelling in SS tig etc. but none of the above have done any aluminum. Clay is getting into some specialty stuff. Good for him.

My son and his girlfriend are now into QC as inspectors and examiners. They don't work a full year and are in 6 figure incomes working shutdowns as contractors. However schooling is still a large part of it. Welding has been good to them.
Clay read this last night with interest. Thanks, Don. He is pursuing a Welding Engineering degree.

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I wish Clay the best on his aluminum welding test(s). I'd love to know what the criteria is for the test is (i.e. is it a bend test, just a visual inspection, or what...). I'd love to share my experiences with aluminum, if you'd like. I am a welding instructor at EB. I teach all the tig students, including structural tig, pipe welding, and aluminum.

I'd love to know what grade of aluminum, what grade of wire, what shielding gas is used, and what welding positions the tests are done in. Good stuff!!

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Clay has never welded aluminum before, and I don't think the welding test is for aluminum. It appears the Forestry Dept has put together a weld test for the "short round" applicants. I think it is going to be basic stuff. Forestry wants someone young whom they can teach/train. I think Clay could learn aluminum fairly easily, but it would have to be OJT.

I'm sure he wouldn't mind sharing the test info with you once he is done. He is laboring between a "real job" and continuing with uninterrupted education. I think he has come to realize that he may never go back to school if he was to get a full time job now.
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Unread 09-08-2012, 09:29 AM   #4148
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Clay read this last night with interest. Thanks, Don. He is pursuing a Welding Engineering degree.



Clay has never welded aluminum before, and I don't think the welding test is for aluminum. It appears the Forestry Dept has put together a weld test for the "short round" applicants. I think it is going to be basic stuff. Forestry wants someone young whom they can teach/train. I think Clay could learn aluminum fairly easily, but it would have to be OJT.

I'm sure he wouldn't mind sharing the test info with you once he is done. He is laboring between a "real job" and continuing with uninterrupted education. I think he has come to realize that he may never go back to school if he was to get a full time job now.
There are 4 people at our company who started out "on the floor" as tradesmen. During that time, they took welding engineering courses, and finally got their degrees. The company paid for it, as it is job related.

They are now "off the floor", and are welding engineers for the company. Good deal!

Perhaps the forestry service offers such a program...best of both worlds!

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Unread 09-08-2012, 10:13 AM   #4149
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Oh, yes, the dilemma… That's kind of what happened to me, although I knew I wanted out of school, so that didn't help!!! Went away to college for the first year, came home for a girl and went to JC… JC was tough because I just couldn't get into it. So I went to the police academy, and now have 90 miss match units that I keep meaning to transfer and do something with, but at 37 years old, with a job with crazy unpredictable hours, two kids and a wife, I can't do anything right now. I kick myself for not just finishing when I was at the age. I would like to be working on my masters before I retire, but now I will be working on my BA first. But the flip side is, I was able to get the certificate needed to do what I wanted to do and all has worked out well for me. So the forestry service may be the perfect thing for him!

Tell him that I will put his name on my prayer list for direction!!!
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Unread 09-08-2012, 11:56 AM   #4150
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There are 4 people at our company who started out "on the floor" as tradesmen. During that time, they took welding engineering courses, and finally got their degrees. The company paid for it, as it is job related.
They are now "off the floor", and are welding engineers for the company. Good deal!

Perhaps the forestry service offers such a program...best of both worlds!

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There is possibly that opportunity. The state does pay for your education. However, he has maxed out on welding courses available around here. A long term career with the Forstery Service seems to me like a good choice, although the money isn't really there. I think he would enjoy it immensely. His goals are pretty high... and then there's the Girl!


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Oh, yes, the dilemma… That's kind of what happened to me, although I knew I wanted out of school, so that didn't help!!! Went away to college for the first year, came home for a girl and went to JC… JC was tough because I just couldn't get into it. So I went to the police academy, and now have 90 miss match units that I keep meaning to transfer and do something with, but at 37 years old, with a job with crazy unpredictable hours, two kids and a wife, I can't do anything right now. I kick myself for not just finishing when I was at the age. I would like to be working on my masters before I retire, but now I will be working on my BA first. But the flip side is, I was able to get the certificate needed to do what I wanted to do and all has worked out well for me. So the forestry service may be the perfect thing for him!

Tell him that I will put his name on my prayer list for direction!!!
Thanks, Bill. We both know why things have worked out well! I am in the very same boat. Raging waters all around, but calm around my ship!
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Unread 09-08-2012, 01:18 PM   #4151
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Clay is notching the crossbar that connects both sides of the A pillar. I eye-balled the height when we tacked it in, and I thought I had it where it would clear the wiper motor. BUT... no! Live and learn, I guess. Clay is still energized as we are so close to being done, so he doesn't seem to mind. He cut out about 50% of the width of the tube, flipped it and welded it back it. That gave a bit of reinforcement back to the tube. Here are some pics of his progress. More to come later...

Wiper motor! There has been a wild ton of discussion about them. I understand the three strands that go to the switch, but what is this single wire going to the housing? Obviously a ground, by what are the other wires that are cut off? This is the way the PO had it. I have new wiring from motor to switch, just have to figure out how it attaches into the dash harness. If anyone can tell me, saving me from laboring over the wiring schematic, I would be in your debt!
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Unread 09-08-2012, 08:35 PM   #4152
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Tell clay to stay in school. I have achieved some success without it but the road would have been allot easier, smoother, faster, and I'd probably be allot farther ahead had I finished my education. BTW how did your phone interview go?
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Tell clay to stay in school. I have achieved some success without it but the road would have been allot easier, smoother, faster, and I'd probably be allot farther ahead had I finished my education. BTW how did your phone interview go?
He will go through with the weld test, at the very least, to achieve interviewing practice. The end result is in God's hands.

My interview went really well. I am supposed to hear something by the first of this week. I remain guarded... don't want to be disappointed. But, really, going or staying is a blessing. It will be so much easier if they don't want me, but so much more exciting if they do!
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Rained so hard last night!! I could hear the whine of cats and the squallin' of dogs as they impacted my roof! whump...YOWL!! WHUMP, WHUMP... arr arr arr arr!! Lightning lit up the house like it was daylight, and the thunder rattled the windows! What a cool storm.
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Rained so hard last night!! I could hear the whine of cats and the squallin' of dogs as they impacted my roof! whump...YOWL!! WHUMP, WHUMP... arr arr arr arr!! Lightning lit up the house like it was daylight, and the thunder rattled the windows! What a cool storm.
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