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Unread 09-29-2010, 11:46 PM   #391
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The liquid check valve is the hard part to find and the vapor line is the most expensive. The rest of the parts can easily be found at a salvage yard or bought new for reasonable prices. Any 3or 4 port canister you find at a salvage yard would work fine. So I guess I'm with Ken, if you have most of the parts or can get them cheap then put it on, if not run the vent setup.
What does the liquid check valve do? I know what a check valve is, but why is it needed prior to a rollover valve?

And the vapor line I intend to make. Perhaps there is something that I haven't figured out, or I'm just plain ignorant... but there is no way I will pay $100 for a vent line. It's just pure principle with me...

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I agree Scott. Even if you need to go back and correct something you can always do that. Guess you could run a line to the tank for a future vent if you need it so you can plug into it without taking the tank off.

Parts getting there and a crossmember on the way. You all will be putting that together soon enough. Where did you decide to get the crossmember? When are we going to get to see it?
I will Tee the two lines together for now and run them to the front. I can modify it later if Ken's and Mike's prophecy come true.

The crossmember will come from Kusterer, who has one he can't use. Thanks to him we saved a little money. Once we acquire it we will be painting/finishing metal. Clay is trying his heart out figuring out some way to make that TJ bumper fit. Maybe we can put it on CL and get his money back!? It occurred to me that Clay needs to go ahead and pick his color (Red) as he intends to paint the tank skidplate the same color. Clay wants stripes like Mike has. Clay looks at Mike's paint and gets all googley-eyed!!

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Unread 09-30-2010, 12:22 AM   #392
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What does the liquid check valve do? I know what a check valve is, but why is it needed prior to a rollover valve?
It is supposed to keep raw fuel from being able to leave the tank and make it to the canister. The roll over valve completely shuts down the vent at moderate angles. IMHO, you could probably run without the liquid valve if you mounted the roll over valve as high as you could inside the rear fender well.

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And the vapor line I intend to make. Perhaps there is something that I haven't figured out, or I'm just plain ignorant... but there is no way I will pay $100 for a vent line. It's just pure principle with me...
I felt the same way. It's only 5/16" line, run it any way you want.

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Clay wants stripes like Mike has. Clay looks at Mike's paint and gets all googley-eyed!!
Oh boy do you have some work ahead of you.
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Unread 09-30-2010, 08:20 AM   #393
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I'm not paying 100 bucks for the vent lines either Scott. There's no pressure to deal with so I'd say the only thing that is needed is to keep it in a place where it won't get burned, tore, or wear on anything.

You could also post the bumper here on classified if you all decide to sell it. Red with stripes. This is sounding good to me. What color stipes? Hey we all get googley-eyed over Mikes paint job, my wife likes it as much as I do!!
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Unread 09-30-2010, 03:51 PM   #394
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Here's something that might be of use to you Scott. Replacements for Liquid Check Valve/Roll Over valve Maybe you've already seen it but I thought I'd make sure you did.
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Unread 09-30-2010, 04:15 PM   #395
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Here's something that might be of use to you Scott. Replacements for Liquid Check Valve/Roll Over valve Maybe you've already seen it but I thought I'd make sure you did.
Man... that's great info. The liquid check valve serves as a collection point for any liquid that would somehow make it UP the line from the vent. Then to the roll-over check valve, which is self-explanatory. I can't see any real reason for a liquid check valve, but then I won't be doing with my Jeep what some of you guys do with yours. Y'all might need one.
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Unread 09-30-2010, 04:19 PM   #396
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Man... that's great info. The liquid check valve serves as a collection point for any liquid that would somehow make it UP the line from the vent. Then to the roll-over check valve, which is self-explanatory. I can't see any real reason for a liquid check valve, but then I won't be doing with my Jeep what some of you guys do with yours. Y'all might need one.
Now wait a bit there Scott. Your Jeep? Do you really think Clay is going to drive like his dad? I remember being his age, I think!!
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Now wait a bit there Scott. Your Jeep? Do you really think Clay is going to drive like his dad? I remember being his age, I think!!
BUSTED!! Thanks for remiding me Jim. I guess I got a little "First-Person" there, didn't I??

That is one of the reasons I changed from SOA to only a 2.5" lift and 31" tires... lower COG. Clay views a truck as a piece of equipment, then uses it to its capability. He is not foolishly young, but he is young!
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BUSTED!! Thanks for remiding me Jim. I guess I got a little "First-Person" there, didn't I??

That is one of the reasons I changed from SOA to only a 2.5" lift and 31" tires... lower COG. Clay views a truck as a piece of equipment, then uses it to its capability. He is not foolishly young, but he is young!
I bet you remember those days of being young too Scott. Shoot I trashed 4 rear ends, 9" at that, in my old pickup when I was 17. That power braking and burning rubber is hard on spiders when you really get them spinning. Tires, man oh man I ruined several sets a year. Finally started buying used. Clay seems a whole lot more mature than I was at his age!!
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I bet you remember those days of being young too Scott. Shoot I trashed 4 rear ends, 9" at that, in my old pickup when I was 17. That power braking and burning rubber is hard on spiders when you really get them spinning. Tires, man oh man I ruined several sets a year. Finally started buying used. Clay seems a whole lot more mature than I was at his age!!
What are you trying to say?? Yeah... he's MUCH better than I was at 17!!!
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What are you trying to say?? Yeah... he's MUCH better than I was at 17!!!
No!! He's a much better young man than I was at 17. But now that you bring it up... Were you as bad as I was at 17???
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How about bringing the 327 in my Impala up to 5500 in neutral and yanking the Powerglide into low on multiple occasions.

Or doing u-screws in the heavy beast and folding a lower a-arm in half after a collision with a curb.

How about the time I was stuck beside a lowrider in rush hour traffic and the moron would not speed up or slow down and ignored my indicator; I double clutch the T10 at 4500 rpm with 3.08's in my short bed Chevy with sticky tires. Broke both yokes, twisted the driveshaft and grenaded the trans.

Column shift a build 350 in a Nova from first to neutral racing a 5.0 (no chance at a win) and a belt flies off and takes out the alternator, water pump, fan and radiator.

I was eatin' up with the dumba$$ back then
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No!! He's a much better young man than I was at 17. But now that you bring it up... Were you as bad as I was at 17???
Pretty sure I ran a close second!!

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How about bringing the 327 in my Impala up to 5500 in neutral and yanking the Powerglide into low on multiple occasions.

Or doing u-screws in the heavy beast and folding a lower a-arm in half after a collision with a curb.

How about the time I was stuck beside a lowrider in rush hour traffic and the moron would not speed up or slow down and ignored my indicator; I double clutch the T10 at 4500 rpm with 3.08's in my short bed Chevy with sticky tires. Broke both yokes, twisted the driveshaft and grenaded the trans.

Column shift a build 350 in a Nova from first to neutral racing a 5.0 (no chance at a win) and a belt flies off and takes out the alternator, water pump, fan and radiator.

I was eatin' up with the dumba$$ back then
When I was 15 I bought my first car... a 69 Camaro with a 4 spd. Went for a joy ride with my bestfriend... dirt road, 90* turn, he says "Punch it around the corner...", so i dropped into 2nd and punched it. Lost control, just missed the Corvette and station wagon coming the other way, shot behind them, jumped the berm from the road grader, and took out the only orange tree in the yard of the meanest old man in the neighborhood!! Screamed outta there, parked in the barn, and threw a blanket over the car... hoping noone would ever know,,, especially my dad, who was the county Juvenile Judge!!
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I doubt any of this talk would be a good influence on Clay.

Dave you sure were hard on equipment, that explains why you know how to fix just about anything!!
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I was eatin' up with the dumba$$ back then
Sounds like my early driving days - I had so many wrecks and tickets by the time I was 18 that the DPS made me retake my driving test. After I passed the test the highway patrolman told me, "Young man, I would let you teach my son how to drive, since you seem know the laws and techniques. On the other hand, I wouldn't dare let my daughter get in a car with you because you obviously don't apply them!"
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