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Unread 03-14-2012, 06:24 PM   #2641
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That's great news. Congrats to Jake.

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Unread 03-14-2012, 06:56 PM   #2642
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i spy with my little eye a harbor freight tool run!

looking good so far!
rear ends scare me
No reason to be intimidated by a nice rearend!

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That's great news. Congrats to Jake.

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Thanks, Guys. Cake and presents are done. Thought we'd be longer. I got Paul's parts in the mail today so I should be setting up the JEEP rearend tomorrow. Keep your fingers crossed!


A couple more fun pics. The swing...
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Unread 03-14-2012, 08:21 PM   #2643
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Nice job Jake!!

We used to jump out of the swing on the way back when I was a kid. Hurt sometimes too!!

Hey Scott I sent you a dvd on setting up ring and pinions. You should see it before Saturday.
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Unread 03-15-2012, 04:46 PM   #2644
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Scott, great news about Jake. my wife and brother both graduated from UF and would recommend it to anyone. on another note here is some visual encouragement. almost done! working on the getting the vibration out of the rear drive shaft.
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Unread 03-15-2012, 05:05 PM   #2645
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Been awfully quiet today Scott.... does that mean the 20 is done or my torque wrench is in Suwannee?
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Unread 03-15-2012, 07:23 PM   #2646
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Scott, great news about Jake. my wife and brother both graduated from UF and would recommend it to anyone. on another note here is some visual encouragement. almost done! working on the getting the vibration out of the rear drive shaft.
Bad to the Bone, Gido. Hey, I'm off the 3rd through 9th if you can find time to come this way!! I really like that step bumper. Considered that myself. may do it yet.

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Been awfully quiet today Scott.... does that mean the 20 is done or my torque wrench is in Suwannee?
You mean that lil baby torque wrench? How do you even hold that little thing in your hand?! Honestly, Paul, I can't throw that far! I assume you had to adapt up to 1/2" drive? I had to work late tonight, so no rearend work. Hopefully tomorrow. I keep going through everything you guys have told me, and it has been real easy so far. I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop! Weather has been in the mid-80s, and I keep thinking I need to get busy with paint while it is warm and dry. Too, too much to do.
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Yeah, I had to use 2 adpaters. 1/4 to 3/8 to 1/2
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Unread 03-15-2012, 11:25 PM   #2648
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Bad to the Bone, Gido. Hey, I'm off the 3rd through 9th if you can find time to come this way!! I really like that step bumper. Considered that myself. may do it yet.

so no rearend work......

Weather has been in the mid-80's.
I've seen you in your pictures. You need more than rear end work, like a frame off. Hahaha.

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Unread 03-16-2012, 04:00 PM   #2649
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I've seen you in your pictures. You need more than rear end work, like a frame off. Hahaha.

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THAT's what you were talking about!?!?
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Well thar goes the neighborhood, jus what we need more dang Gators!
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Unread 03-16-2012, 09:14 PM   #2652
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I have been on a 3-day high! Not a chemical high, but a "good day" high. Don't know why things are going so well for me. My family can't buy a vowel... we've been sick, on and off, this entire new year. Little guy has 104* temp, next little guy has 103*, wifey was 103* yesterday, and CRANKY!!

So I went straight to the shop when I got home, and got to work on Clay's differential. I took some pics as I was going with the intent of showing "how to do it", but you just can't take pics when you're doing this kind of work. I have some that I can share. To all you Noobs... if you are contemplating setting up your own rearend, gearchange , lunchbox locker install, don't be scared. It takes time, but if you have the motivation you CAN do this.

Starting with the stripped down AMC20 diff housing. Axles are removed. I have cleaned it up with brake cleaner, and it is spotless... except for a little rust!


These are the setup bearings that Paul sent me. He told me I could modify them if I needed to, but I decided I would make my own, as I have another CJ waiting in the wings.


I'm going to shave this race down a little at a time. I have this big 'ol floor sander, so it wasn't any work at all, but I still went slow and made lots of trips back and forth. When I was done, my race was easily tapped into place.


Finished product- I did this with both races on the pinion shaft. You don't do this for the carrier.


This is a 3.54 pinion sent to me by Bill. I am using the large bearing that is on the shaft. I have a reason for that, knowing that new bearings would be the *best* thing to do. This is the crush sleeve that was in Bill's Jeep, but I am using Paul's small setup bearing, as it slides smoothly onto the pinion shaft.


Setup races installed


Pinion installed


Using my *NEW* Handy Dandy HF "Professional" impact to tighten down the pinion nut. You probably DON'T want to do this with your final setup and a new crush sleeve.


Using Paul's itty bitty 1/4" drive beam-type torque wrench. I want 14-16 inch-pounds of rotational force to turn the pinion shaft. This necessary force is called preload. Preload is created by the tightness of the pinion nut, forcing the bearing into the race.


Need to tighten it down some more.


Yiles! Clay making a cheater bar...


I couldn't put enough preload on the pinion without the cheater bar. When it came down to it, all I did was lift Clay and the axle off the table. I could not tighten the nut down anymore. I pulled the pinion back out and installed an additional shim behind the large race. Forgot to mention shims... I reinstalled the same shim back onto the pinion that came off of it. It had one fairly thick shim behind the large race. I have just now added another shim... .0075 ( the smallest in the set) to be able to create the proper preload. This was a SWAG, and nothing but a SWAG. Doesn't take much to make a big difference.


I installed the carrier making sure to keep the races matched to the bearings. In other words, don't mix them up. I had to use a dead-blow hammer to tap the carrier in, driving it in by striking the bearing races. Be careful not to bend the shims. Torqued to 50 FT/LBS.


Checking backlash with my *NEW* Handy Dandy HF Dial-Indicator (base sold separately). Bill had to talk me through this one, as I have never used a dial-indicator!


Another angle of how I set up the indicator.


Right at 8.5 thousands (?). Bill says between 6 and 10, preferrably at 8. Pretty dang good for a first-timer! Could I get away this easy? Stay tuned. Gear marking compound tomorrow...



Thanks to Paul and Bill who has made this whole thing possible. I hope everybody is well for spring break on the 3rd!
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Unread 03-16-2012, 09:31 PM   #2653
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First off.... why you gotta make fun of my tiny torque wrench? You are not using Bill's old crush sleeve in there during setup are you? If you are, that is why you were having a hard time getting the preload. You do not need it in there for setup. You sure about that rotational torque setting? I thought it was 20-30 in-lbs? I kinda remember shooting for 25 during setup and final and ended up around 22 I think and stopped. During final install go SLOW with the crush sleeve.

Doing good Scott... keep it rolling.
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This was a SWAG, and nothing but a SWAG. I guess that would make me, Bill "S" lucdog.

I like O'Billy better.

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Its RBF time next week, yummy
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Using my *NEW* Handy Dandy HF "Professional" impact to tighten down the pinion nut. You probably DON'T want to do this with your final setup and a new crush sleeve.
Scott, Scott, Scott.... you don't really think that itty bitty impact wrench is gonna make a dent in that crush sleeve do you?
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