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Unread 01-18-2012, 06:11 PM   #2296
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Unread 01-18-2012, 07:29 PM   #2297
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Nice looking truck Dave, was it yours?
pickups changed in 88, the others in 91. There ought to be a bunch in non salt states.

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Unread 01-18-2012, 10:37 PM   #2298
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IIIIIIIIII haaaaaaad toooooooooo reeeeeaaaaad thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiissssss sloooooooooooooow. Nowwwwwwwwww IIIIIIIIIIIIII geeeeeeeet iiiiiiiiiiiittttttttt!
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Unread 01-18-2012, 11:18 PM   #2299
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Dang, now I gotta look at Chevy lights for MY Jeep! That would look so cool. Why don't you mean old guys leave me alone!?
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Unread 01-23-2012, 05:13 PM   #2300
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$#@&!*%#@!

Crushing pipe today. Not even good enough for a wind chime!
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Unread 01-23-2012, 06:03 PM   #2301
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$#@&!*%#@!

Crushing pipe today. Not even good enough for a wind chime!
Ok what happend.

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1984 Grand Wagoneer, 1 ton axles, great 360/727, and a big a$& tree fell on it .
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Unread 01-23-2012, 08:57 PM   #2302
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Unread 01-23-2012, 09:11 PM   #2303
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The only thing I can think of is, be it standard black or galvanized, is its a different makeup. Not designed to bend like that, at least not that much of a radius.

I'm guessing this is a practice piece, and if that's the case, pick up a 1.5" or 2" emt. And work with that for practice.

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1979 CJ7 360, TH400/Quadratrac trail Jeep.
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1980 CJ5 trail Jeep.
1983 CJ7 pretty weekend and sometimes to work Driver in the summer, My first rebuild, if the Q-trac and 5 are broke, this one is the one to take. its just as capable as the other 2, except nice paint.
1984 Grand Wagoneer, 1 ton axles, great 360/727, and a big a$& tree fell on it .
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Unread 01-23-2012, 09:27 PM   #2304
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Just get AJ to show you a bend or two and see what the secret of that bender is. hang in there.
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Unread 01-23-2012, 09:29 PM   #2305
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The only thing I can think of is, be it standard black or galvanized, is its a different makeup. Not designed to bend like that, at least not that much of a radius.

I'm guessing this is a practice piece, and if that's the case, pick up a 1.5" or 2" emt. And work with that for practice.

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The tightest bend I'll need to make is a 90*. I didn't even get to that! Guess I'll try packing it with sand and see how that works. What a PITA!

I was expecting some screw ups, but more like bending at the wrong place. Not kinking. The die is a 1 1/2" die, and I'm using 1 1/2" pipe. Should work!

AJ used this thing to build the cages in his race cars over the years. He said it'd been so long since he used it there wasn't a lot he could tell me... I would have to figure it out. He DID help me with figuring out the radius, adding and subtracting. The piece I ruined was intended to be used!! I was going to go slow... measure twice, cut once... you know? I was questioning my skill, not the machine. I learned my unknown skill is greater than the machine!
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Unread 01-23-2012, 09:36 PM   #2306
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Scott, have you seen this modification? Makes sense to me, but not sure AJ would want you drilling a hole in his die.

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Unread 01-23-2012, 10:00 PM   #2307
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Scott, have you seen this modification? Makes sense to me, but not sure AJ would want you drilling a hole in his die.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlSnVSrWg0M
NEW HOPE!! Thanks, Paul. I'll get with AJ this week and see what he says.
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Unread 01-24-2012, 04:24 AM   #2308
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Skipper the problem is that you are using a HF pipe bender to bend tubing. Pipe is measured ID or inside diameter and tubing is measured in OD or outside diameter. The reason for this is pipe conveys a fluid, gas or semi soild and the diameter is a constant for flow. Pipe wall thickness will grow on the outside but the ID will remain constant. Tubing on the other hand is a structural member and is measure in OD and if you get thicker tubing it will grow on the inside the OD will remain constant.

Bending requires that your bending shoe (die) is a tight fit other wise it will always kink. And if you have ever tried bending conduit you will know what I mean. Using a 3/4 inch bender to bend 1/2 pipe rarely works and results in kinked or folded tubing which is frustrating and can get expensive.

Now I see what the guy in the video is doing and all I can say is that it is hit or miss. So you will kink some pipe.

I do like the idea of a shim for the die and that might work. What size tubing are you trying to bend Skipper?
What you could try is measure the outside diameter of your tubing and then see what the diffence is. Divide the difference in half and try to find anything that is close to the difference. I would look at EMT first and then make a trip down to your metal guy and see what he has. Cut the tubing in half and slip that over the tubing your gonna bend and see if that makes a difference. Also a lite coat of grease on the dies does help a bit.
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Scotty OK i did some checking and IMC (intermidate conduit can be gotten from a electrical supply house not Lowes or Home Depot) will work as a shim in your bending shoes. The OD of IMC is the same OD as the moninal pipe size you are using. The ID will be the same as your tubing so cut the IMC in half and slip it over the first piece of tubing your going to bend. Make the bend with the IMC as a shim with your tubing once the IMC is bent leave it in the die for future bends.

FYI the 11/2 and 2 inch should be pretty close.
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Skipper the problem is that you are using a HF pipe bender to bend tubing. Pipe is measured ID or inside diameter and tubing is measured in OD or outside diameter. The reason for this is pipe conveys a fluid, gas or semi soild and the diameter is a constant for flow. Pipe wall thickness will grow on the outside but the ID will remain constant. Tubing on the other hand is a structural member and is measure in OD and if you get thicker tubing it will grow on the inside the OD will remain constant.

Bending requires that your bending shoe (die) is a tight fit other wise it will always kink. And if you have ever tried bending conduit you will know what I mean. Using a 3/4 inch bender to bend 1/2 pipe rarely works and results in kinked or folded tubing which is frustrating and can get expensive.

Now I see what the guy in the video is doing and all I can say is that it is hit or miss. So you will kink some pipe.

I do like the idea of a shim for the die and that might work. What size tubing are you trying to bend Skipper?
What you could try is measure the outside diameter of your tubing and then see what the diffence is. Divide the difference in half and try to find anything that is close to the difference. I would look at EMT first and then make a trip down to your metal guy and see what he has. Cut the tubing in half and slip that over the tubing your gonna bend and see if that makes a difference. Also a lite coat of grease on the dies does help a bit.
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Scotty OK i did some checking and IMC (intermidate conduit can be gotten from a electrical supply house not Lowes or Home Depot) will work as a shim in your bending shoes. The OD of IMC is the same OD as the moninal pipe size you are using. The ID will be the same as your tubing so cut the IMC in half and slip it over the first piece of tubing your going to bend. Make the bend with the IMC as a shim with your tubing once the IMC is bent leave it in the die for future bends.

FYI the 11/2 and 2 inch should be pretty close.
George- You blew past me so fast I couldn't hear what you said!!

Slow down please and talk like I am impaired! I am using 1 1/2" PIPE, not tubing. I know it is pipe because the owner of the steel yard told me so. He does not stock DOM. This pipe is what all the race car drivers use (roundy round drivers) for their cages. It has a welded seam right down the middle. I am also using the 1 1/2" shoe. I know this because it says so on the side of the shoe. It DOES seem large, however. Maybe I should try a smaller shoe??

I will measure ID and OD so you have something to compare. Been waiting for your input, Geo. Don't be so slow next time! I could have had this DONE by now...
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