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post #1621 of 5422 Old 08-14-2011, 06:23 AM
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Those are some beautiful sights! Times like that with the family will always be treasured. God bless America.


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post #1622 of 5422 Old 08-21-2011, 02:43 PM Thread Starter
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I wish I had foresight! I mean, really... just think how far ahead those guys are that have the ability to think down the road! I've never been one of those. I have a buddy who is an engineer, and he thinks of everything. I guess I'm a muddling doofus because I just keep fixing/modifying things until no more mods are needed! What I'm referring to is the work I created when we repaired the underside of the bed. By adding the stringers and the biaxial glass, we changed the dynamics of the tub mounts. It turned out that the front and rear tub mounts made contact, while all of the mounts in the middle didn't make contact with the tub at all. Then the upper rear shock mounts hit the stringers. So we have to raise the tub a half-inch or so for clearance. So in this effort, since we already have a brand-spanking-new polyurethane tub bushing set, we decided to add blocks (glass them to the tub bottom) to make up the difference. We have to custom cut/sand/grind each block to make sure there is even weight distribution. One of Clay's buddies hung out after church today, and he is helping Clay with the work. Before pulling the tub, we got each tub mount block right, and we mocked up the fenders and hood. So we could pull the tub with confidence, knowing we could put it right back on when we were through.

We pulled my 7 out of the barn. We rolled Clay's 5 out into the sun (it was hot and muggy). We got to work. Then it started to rain, like, out of nowhere! I don't like my stuff to get wet so I was hustling to get Jeeps back in the barn. We shoved Clay's Jeep under the lean-to, and I forgot to put the hood down!! The hood caught on the top plate of the bay. I had a wooden dowel propping open the hood, so it couldn't close!! Since the tub isn't bolted down it knocked the whole dang tub off the mounts, off the crossmember, etc. Everything had shifted significantly!! So we had to start over. If you have ever labored over getting your tub exactly right, then you know how much this killed me! I think we got it back where it needs to be. Here are a few pics of today's events. It is so hot, so humid, and drizzly that the day is busted! Might as well go take a nap!

Clay's friend Samuel test fitting a wooden block.


Clay and Samuel sanding down some blocks to fit.


Doofus dad forgot to put the hood down, and it hit on the top plate. You should have heard the crunching sound! We didn't find anything broken however. This is while we were setting it back up.


Tightening down the fenders.




I should have kept my mitts OFF the Jeeps this weekend! But I know we have to help someone move next Saturday, and then the next Saturday we are joining other familys for a river trip. Who knows if we'll ever get this done!?

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post #1623 of 5422 Old 08-21-2011, 02:54 PM
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I know your pain Scott. Slow and steady wins the race. How long until you think you'll be ready for paint?

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post #1624 of 5422 Old 08-21-2011, 03:17 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks Mike. You're definitely an inspiration to us. If we could just get the tub off and the blocks glassed on, we could go ahead and paint the bottom of the tub and be done with that. Then, we have some filler to do on the interior/exterior, and a little bit of glass. If we could coordinate we could be ready to paint in a week... 2 weeks if if I am conservative!! There is maybe 3 solid, good days of work to be ready to paint, but we'll d-r-a-g it out! We are so close to that point. We still have to finish putting Crabtree's shackle hangers on the front, sway bar bracket, and engine/frame support rod. Oh yeah, and the gas tank/skid plate need to go on. Clay is welding in the rear crossmember as I type. It was just tacked before. We are definitely in the "finishing up" stage. There's just always something coming up to keep us from getting done!

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Scott,

having a resource like the Suwannee River across the street has to be nice! I agree with Bill, I just got back from vacation a few days ago and seeing that river makes me want to go back! And part of my vacation was taking my kids into the Rubicon Springs with Bill for the day...

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I did something like that one time Scott. I had a beautiful 77 Nova, 350, bright yellow perfect paint job, IROC wheels...it was sweet. I was working on it and for some reason I can't remember now, I had a car ramp in front of the passenger side front wheel when it started to hail out of nowhere, I jumped in an gunned it to get in the garage, up and over the ramp and it slammed down hard on the ramp and smashed the lower fender and rocker

On the braces, time for a little re-engineering

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Scott,

having a resource like the Suwannee River across the street has to be nice! I agree with Bill, I just got back from vacation a few days ago and seeing that river makes me want to go back! And part of my vacation was taking my kids into the Rubicon Springs with Bill for the day...
That's cool that you went with Bill. I would enjoy that myself.

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I did something like that one time Scott. I had a beautiful 77 Nova, 350, bright yellow perfect paint job, IROC wheels...it was sweet. I was working on it and for some reason I can't remember now, I had a car ramp in front of the passenger side front wheel when it started to hail out of nowhere, I jumped in an gunned it to get in the garage, up and over the ramp and it slammed down hard on the ramp and smashed the lower fender and rocker

On the braces, time for a little re-engineering
I really hate doing stupid stuff... especially when it has a cost. I had those two boys out there and I wanted to scream! I couldn't let it out, so I grumbled and walked off for a few minutes! I'm glad I didn't mess up my beautiful paint job, though. No telling what I would have done in that instance. Once, I was working on the pump/well at the house (several years ago). It was Sunday and we had company coming over. I had backed over the water line while backing a trailer next to the house. We had no water! I was cutting the PVC and I messed up. I threw my hacksaw as hard as I could! It hung on a dead limb in a pine tree maybe 40' in the air! What a moron! God has subtle ways of dealing with idiots! I learn slow...

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Yep, he lets us do crazy things to release our frustrations and allowing time to look back and laugh about it. Then a chance to re-engineer a solution to get back to square one with the lowest cost and time penalty

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I threw my hacksaw as hard as I could! It hung on a dead limb in a pine tree maybe 40' in the air!
I don't care who you, the image of that has to make one laugh!

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post #1630 of 5422 Old 08-22-2011, 06:04 PM
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Threw the hacksaw up in the tree, the HB sander got hurled to the floor and you tried to tear the hood off Clay's Jeep!!

Looks like the guys are gettin things under control. You all are moving forward, that's good.
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post #1631 of 5422 Old 08-22-2011, 06:31 PM
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Hey Scott, I don't know how I missed the canoe trip pictures, looks like a great time was had, except for the snake, I would have never imagined Northern Florida with cliffs. Thanks for putting up the pictures.
O, to me that is a big snake, and I'm not a fan of them.
RBF's tonight, at the FH.

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post #1632 of 5422 Old 08-23-2011, 06:53 PM Thread Starter
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Threw the hacksaw up in the tree, the HB sander got hurled to the floor and you tried to tear the hood off Clay's Jeep!!

Looks like the guys are gettin things under control. You all are moving forward, that's good.
Thanks for pointing that out Jim. I forgot about the inline sander. Good thing there wasn't a little Chinese guy standing next to me at that moment!! There have been other things along the way...

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Hey Scott, I don't know how I missed the canoe trip pictures, looks like a great time was had, except for the snake, I would have never imagined Northern Florida with cliffs. Thanks for putting up the pictures.
O, to me that is a big snake, and I'm not a fan of them.
RBF's tonight, at the FH.

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Snakes are cool! I like snakes.

We are trying to organize another canoe trip with... friends this time. It's a lot of fun. And I wish I had an RBF too. I'm jealous...

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Several things going on today, but Clay is the only one who had is act together! Clay was welding, which I'll post up in a minute, but first, the problem I am having with some glass work. I need your input whether I should do this glass work or not. Is it needed? Bill (lucdog) posted up pics of metal straps for bracing for the rear/crossmember tub mounts. I am trying to use some wood glassed in to create a mounting surface for the pucks located at the rear crossmember. In the end, I threw everything on the ground, and in total disgust, came in the house! So... without further adieu...

This is a pic of the underside of the tub. There is a factory rib to strengthen the back. I THINK the rib has these t*ts to create a surface for the pucks to rest on, but they don't match up to anything. So I have to make/do something.


I cut this PT 2X4 to fill along the entire width of the tub. It would rest against the rib. I figured it would strengthen the back of the tub, make it more rigid. And it would make a nice mounting surface for the pucks.


The rib was not evenly installed from the factory, and you can see that one end causes the board to extend beyond the edge of the tub.


The other end looks pretty good.


So I removed some glass to make the 2X sit lower, and that worked, but I have to remove quite a bit more to get it right. My problem today is that I really don't want to have glass dust all over me!


So because of the relationship between the rib and the board, I cut the board into blocks thinking it would be easier to work with. I am contemplating just glassing in the blocks at the corners. I am concerned that glass won't be strong enough to hold the blocks against the weight of the tub, and that in time, the glass will crack around the blocks. It will have the narrow edge of the block against the tub, and the puck would create leverage against the glass seam. Would it hold? Am I thinking right? Wrong? What do you guys recommend???? The other concern is the amount of filler work that will be needed to blend the glass that overlaps the exterior surface of the tub.


For now I am done with it! I lay in bed thinking about what I have to do, and I think about how easy it will be to complete, and then we can paint the bottom of the tub and concentrate on the inside, but karma is killing me today!

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I've got no answers for you, but it looks good… I liked the idea of the full length piece, though…

... I guess I'm gonna have to fix that too…….

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Here is my work on all the blocks the I glassed into place. These blocks are at each puck. In light of all the other glass work we did, once we mocked the tub on the frame, not all of the pucks made contact with the tub. So we custom cut some blocks for each mounting area, shaving some of them to the correct thickness so we had consistent contact at each puck. I ronically, and without meaning to do it, we have created a body lift on the this dad-blamed Jeep, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but we don't know how much it is!! I'm guessing an inch and a half.

The custom blocks are in place.


The precut glass was sitting on top of each block so I could zip through the resin process, and a gust of wind came up and blew them all over the place... adding to my diminshing attitude!


Glassing the blcoks in...


My crappy work! I didn't have my heart in it. Still, the blocks just need to stay there. They don't have to waterproof as they are PT. I'll clean them up with the DA and maybe, MAYBE add a little more glass. These things were a PITA, and I shold have put a 45* bevel on each side.

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