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Unread 03-28-2009, 09:48 PM   #1
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Cj7 Winch Mounting

I bought a 86 cj7 recently and have been working on it ever since. My latest addition is that i bought gorilla winch to put on it. After looking at a few winch plates that are out there and how they are mounted i dont see why i cant just mount the winch directly to the plate that is welded to the frame already behind the front pumper. Is there any down side to doing this or is it completly necessary to buy a mounting plate.

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Unread 03-28-2009, 10:11 PM   #2
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Yes you can mount it to that plate, but I wouldn't do it. The reason is that plate isn't necessarily very thick steel. If you ever got into a heavy pull situation, and it bent that plate you'd be in for a lot of trouble. Remember that the steering box is partially mounted to that as well.

The best winch plate you can buy is the Warn one. That's what I run, it's real beefy and mounts to the side of the frame with 2 brackets where it's not going to bend at all. It may be a lot more expensive to go with the Warn plate, but well worth the money!
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Unread 03-28-2009, 10:17 PM   #3
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I bought a 86 cj7 recently and have been working on it ever since. My latest addition is that i bought gorilla winch to put on it. After looking at a few winch plates that are out there and how they are mounted i dont see why i cant just mount the winch directly to the plate that is welded to the frame already behind the front pumper. Is there any down side to doing this or is it completly necessary to buy a mounting plate.
The plate diretly back of your bumper is relatively thin and is your front frame cross member. Bend this and your steering goes haywire too, since it is also a mounting point for your steering gearbox. It's not made for taking the stresses that a winch can generate. A well designed winch mount directs the pulling forces to the frame rails. This is a pic of a Warn mount on a CJ-5.
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Unread 03-28-2009, 11:07 PM   #4
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Thanks, im gonna go ahead and order one of the warn winch plates on monday
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Unread 03-28-2009, 11:21 PM   #5
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What kind of winch did you buy?
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Unread 03-28-2009, 11:34 PM   #6
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I bought a 10,000 pound gorilla winch but the plate that gorilla makes doesnt have the sides on it, it just mounts directly on top of the plate already there. Most people say thats a bad thing not having the sides bolted down to the frame too so the warn mount looks like the best way to go
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Unread 03-30-2009, 08:07 AM   #7
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I have even bent the warn plate, on my first self extraction too! That would have wrecked the stock plate down there.
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Unread 03-30-2009, 02:11 PM   #8
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what are you using now then do you still have the warn plate on or did you do something different
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Mine has done fine and it has done some severe pulls. I was recovering a 3/4 ton truck stuck in some thick mud bottomed out everywhere. I had the rear end strapped to a large cypress tree using my tow hooks and my rear wheels were off the ground. My winch almost didn't have enough umph to pull it, but it got it out. Let's just say if my frame wasn't straight it is now, and my Warn plate took it just fine.
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Mine has done fine and it has done some severe pulls. I was recovering a 3/4 ton truck stuck in some thick mud bottomed out everywhere. I had the rear end strapped to a large cypress tree using my tow hooks and my rear wheels were off the ground. My winch almost didn't have enough umph to pull it, but it got it out. Let's just say if my frame wasn't straight it is now, and my Warn plate took it just fine.
Good way of turning a CJ-7 into a CJ-8
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Unread 03-31-2009, 05:22 AM   #11
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what are you using now then do you still have the warn plate on or did you do something different
I still have the bent warn plate on. I bent it down on a reverse pull and kinked the fairlead opening.

I mean really, why do we put winches on up front anyway? I never seem to find a swamp when driving in reverse.....

I had to crawl under in the muck and feed my winch line under my bumper, then under my axles and out the back to a tree. It worked, but...
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Unread 03-31-2009, 08:42 AM   #12
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i bought a ramsey rep 8000 for my cj-7 a few years ago.

they make a very good winch plate for the jeep cj-7. It has angles that attach to the sides of the jeep frame, these attach to the mount plate.

very good setup and not too hard to install. It has worked well for me, have pulled old barns over, farm equipment out of weeds and trees over as I was cutting them to insure they did not fall out buildings,

Not only does the winch look good on a Jeep but they are very handle.

But they must be mounted properly, can bend the frame of Jeep.

Check with ramsey, see what the cost of this mount setup is, worth a look.
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I have a Smittybily XRC8 winch. It was previously on my TJ until i traded it. I also had a Rough Country winch plate designed for a TJ. We cut the sides of the plate down and put a couple holes in it and mounted it to that plate that runs between the frames behind the bumper. 2 bolts near the center/outside and welded the sides to the frame. Tested it out on a hill, with the winch holding my whole jeep on a hill and it seems strong.
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Unread 04-03-2009, 12:09 AM   #14
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thanks guys im still looking around at different plates to mount
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Unread 04-03-2009, 12:24 AM   #15
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I would vote the Warn plate. I like both of the ones I got.
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