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Unread 01-05-2014, 10:39 AM   #1
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CJ7 in a Toy Hauler?

I can't be the first to think of this but I'm buying a RV for my family to camp in and I will be towing it with my Truck. I'm going the 5th Wheel route and I want to put my 2700lb CJ7 in the back. Has anyone done this? I'm looking for a 5th Wheel that can handle it. Any ideas would be appreciated.

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Unread 01-05-2014, 11:02 AM   #2
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I would send a PM to CSP. He was looking at the same thing about a year ago.
2700#'s seems a little lite for a 7, have you weighed yours?

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Unread 01-05-2014, 11:26 AM   #3
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2700#'s seems a little lite for a 7, have you weighed yours?
I agree. Your going to need to go to an RV center and take a look at the tare and gross weights on different RV's to see if you can get one that will haul that kind of weight.
The other option is to convert an actual car hauler to a camper. These are designed to haul autos, which means the ramps are strong enough to take the weight of the CJ, most are low to the ground, and there is usually plenty of extra hauling capacity. We did this with a snow mobile trailer so we could haul our quads and camp at the coast.
If you want to go overboard, you can find an old trailer or camper and install the appliances and toilet (on our list when we can get to it).
I also hope that you have the vehicle to pull it. Large three axle toy haulers and loaded car trailers usually exceed the gross vehicle tow weights of most 3/4 ton rigs.
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Unread 01-05-2014, 11:40 AM   #4
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I don't remember the brand, but one of the guys in our little Jeep group has been doing this for about 4-5 years now. He hauls his CJ7 with an iron headed BBC in his toy hauler, behind an extended cab Duramax. Says it's a little tight, but everything fits.
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Unread 01-05-2014, 12:40 PM   #5
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I kicked this around a little bit and found that doors have a hard time holding up to the weight driving across them. Im sure with some looking you could find one built well enough to do it. I ended up welding a hitch to my flatbed and pulling a tent trailer behind it.
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Unread 01-05-2014, 01:07 PM   #6
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It's 24' , the rear door is 7'4" high, ( for a SOA CJ 5 on 36" tires. The trailer has a 102" width on the outside, and guessing the inside width of the door is 94". This inside rear is a beavertail. The GVW of the trailer is 10'000 #'s, with a CJ inside it tips the scales at 9,900 for a trip.
It sleeps 4 or 6 depending on adding 2 spare fold up beds. Sleeps 2 without removing the Jeep.
It also has a dorm style fridge, portable toilet, 16 gallon water tank,( no grey or black tank) sink, cabinets, AC, and a camper door. There isn't a partition between the Jeep and sleeping area, I vent the gas tank to the exterior.

My $.02 for a different option.
I pulled it with a 2002 F350 with a 7.3 and automatic . Also had 3.73 gears and 285/76/16 tires. A better choice for towing this trailer would be 4.10 gears and a F 450, or the comparable GMC, or RAM.

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Unread 01-05-2014, 01:11 PM   #7
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I'd also caution you to MEASURE several times YOUR Jeep to see if it fits. Don't assume that because you've seen a CJ7 slip out of a hauler that yours will too. I know my Jeep can most likely go places (barely) than yours can't because I have a narrower track than you do.

I'd also recommend going with a large car hauler and retrofitting it to a camper.
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Unread 01-05-2014, 01:18 PM   #8
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I kicked this around a little bit and found that doors have a hard time holding up to the weight driving across them. Im sure with some looking you could find one built well enough to do it. I ended up welding a hitch to my flatbed and pulling a tent trailer behind it.
In some states (Illinois) this wouldn't be a option, the first towed vehicle must be a 5th wheel ( you didn't say if your flatbed was) and there is also a overall length limit.

Another option would be a flatbed with 14' of bed space, and a pop-up secured in the front of the trailer.

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Or the truck camper way.

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1984 Grand Wagoneer, 1 ton axles, great 360/727, and a big a$& tree fell on it .
1989 YJ the CJ to YJ conversion.
2005 TJ Rubicon.
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Unread 01-05-2014, 02:07 PM   #9
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If you are looking at new I would suggest stopping at your local cargo trailer sales lot for a custom job. I went down this road about 15 yrs ago and I think it's the best bang for the buck. My local guy was a Pace dealer which is affiliated with Fleetwood(camper mfg). I ended up ordering a new custom made enclosed gooseneck to my specs for what I needed. Also built much better than any "Toyhauler" of the day.

I did order it unfinished as to save a few bucks as my brother-in-law is a cabinet maker and some stuff I wanted to do myself.

What I ordered was a:
Pace Shadow 32' enclosed goose
tandem 7500# axles
Extra 1' tall
Fully insulated
Truck body style
4 windows
RV door
7 gal LP waterheater
outside shower
80 gal fresh water tank
toilet
20 gal black water tank
50# ridge mount LP tank
30 amp breaker panel
Roof AC
8 110 volt outlets
3 12 lights switched
5000 LB rated ramp door

I'm sure I forgot some stuff but I was out the door for a little under $14,000
in 1998. And I have about another $3500 into it after putting in:

LP Fridge
LP Furnace
Partition/walls
1 more RV door
Sink/plumbing
Cabinets
Dinette
Beds

I ended up with a 15'9" garage and 16' living quarters.
I had to sell it because of a lifestyle change but if I had to do it over again I would have the same thing only 4' longer. 2' in the garage and 2' in the living area.
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Unread 01-05-2014, 03:04 PM   #10
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The only toy hauler fifth wheel that I found with a big enough garage and enough weight capacity was the Voltage brand. They have one with a 14' garage.

Plan on upwards of $70k new.
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Unread 01-05-2014, 03:52 PM   #11
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Jeep CJs weigh far more than 2700 lbs.
Better get yours weighed !
FWIW: My 7 w/winch and spare stuff, is 3900lbs.
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Unread 01-05-2014, 04:31 PM   #12
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My flatbed is a bumper pull. It is a larger 20 ft trailer. I know some guys are not fans of tandem bumper pulls. My setup tows great and have never had any issues. That being said it is freakin long. I have been thinking about upgrading to a 24 foot 14k flatbed. I would hook the tent trailer to the front reciever on the jeep and push the tent trailer onto the flatbed. Once I arrived at my destination I would simply back it off the trailer and set it up. That way the trailer is still able to be used for hauling trucks and equipment.
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Unread 01-05-2014, 07:35 PM   #13
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Gooseneck horse trailer with a front living quarters.
Reinforce the floor maybe.
Check the inside width/height. Mine was 7'x7' inside, but that was when I had horses, had no use for a jeep then.

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Unread 01-05-2014, 08:32 PM   #14
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Here's what I'd like to find used someday. I drove about an hour to look at one a couple of years ago and somebody was driving off the lot with it by the time I got there. www.racingjunk.com is a good site to look for trailers.
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Unread 01-05-2014, 09:44 PM   #15
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Here's what I'd like to find used someday. I drove about an hour to look at one a couple of years ago and somebody was driving off the lot with it by the time I got there. www.racingjunk.com is a good site to look for trailers.
Looks like a cut down Featherlite horse trailer, lol.
Figure they can haul large warm bloods or even draft horses (1,500-2,500 each horse) so they can carry the simple weight of a CJ.

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