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Unread 08-16-2010, 03:11 PM   #46
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Got the Front 4" springs all installed, and the extended brake lines as well. Its coming along nicely.






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Unread 08-16-2010, 03:18 PM   #47
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Check your caster, after I put my 4" lift on I needed 4deg shims up front to bring it back to ~ 6deg. Made driving MUCH easier.
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Unread 08-16-2010, 03:25 PM   #48
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I dont understand how dropping the rearend 4" down messes up the castor?
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Unread 08-16-2010, 03:38 PM   #49
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Sorry from reading this thread you went up 4" on the front. When you lift the front, your pinion angle changes, thus your castor changes. When I put my 4" springs on my CJ5 it dropped my castor down to about 2 deg positive. You will want about 6 deg positive or your steering will wander a bit.
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Unread 08-16-2010, 04:05 PM   #50
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Sorry from reading this thread you went up 4" on the front. When you lift the front, your pinion angle changes, thus your castor changes. When I put my 4" springs on my CJ5 it dropped my castor down to about 2 deg positive. You will want about 6 deg positive or your steering will wander a bit.
Alright, thanks for the heads up. I have been wondering about it. But I am going to try it out before I make any big changes. If worse comes to worse I will just get an angle grinder and grind off some of my perch. As long as its able to be driven down the highway without to much craziness at about 55, I am not going to complain any. I am building this thing to trail ride, and some road use.

Thanks again, is there anything else you can think of I am going to run into? Did you do any type of extended shock setup? About how long of shocks did you go with?
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Unread 08-16-2010, 08:29 PM   #51
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Them red calipers look good!
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Unread 08-16-2010, 08:33 PM   #52
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Thats something the P.O. Did. I could careless what color they are since you will never see them anyways tucked inside a 10" wheel.
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Unread 08-16-2010, 08:35 PM   #53
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Thats something the P.O. Did. I could careless what color they are since you will never see them anyways tucked inside a 10" wheel.
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Unread 08-19-2010, 03:05 PM   #54
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What do you think I should sell the heavy duty stock springs off this CJ for? They are in good shape, the two rear spring rear bushings are wore out and need new ones. Just curious. I was thinking of pricing them for $150.
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Unread 08-25-2010, 06:10 PM   #55
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I know you have made some progress...wheres the pics?
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Unread 08-25-2010, 07:03 PM   #56
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Well, I just got the front axle in, I still need to bolt up the extended shock mounts, and extend the steering arm out, since I am going with a widetrack front axle. But I have had some personal issues that I am still dealing with. Kinda depressing, and hopefully this weekend I will get back to working on the ol' Jeep.
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Unread 09-05-2010, 03:59 PM   #57
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SOOOO, I got it all done for now. Took it out to Disney this weekend, actually drove it all the way out there. It drives really good, not as well as the CJ7, but still drives really well. Considering its all two lane highway. Anyways, I got some more pics, but here a pic of King of the mountain. lol

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Unread 09-06-2010, 07:53 AM   #58
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Looks like fun! Wish I could hurry up and finish mine, just time is all. So is it all done now?
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Unread 09-06-2010, 11:25 AM   #59
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...has a small hole, and I cant seem to get it in it for some reason. Its really annoying, spend all of last night till 5 in the morning trying to get it in. I only have a couple of inches to go.

There's a quote for the ages!

Nice writeup!
The only thing I might do different would be flatten out the drag link angle some more but if it drives good there's no sense in that.
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Unread 09-07-2010, 05:56 PM   #60
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OH I did, theres alot of stuff I am leaving out in this write up. I was almost finished with this build when my Girlfriend of 3 years broke up with me. I just lost all motivation on this project. I didnt even want to go jeeping. Then I got to thinking, I am to old for this feeling, I am going to go do something about all this. SO I literally forced myself to go out there and finish it up, and that cured alot of my stresses and made things pretty good in my head.

SO what I did was:
Installed goferit Tie Rod flip Bushings - easy, just had to buy a $25 3/4 bit and the $45 worth of bushings
Had to tighten down some other stuff just for good measure
Had to Grind down some ears that were on the steering knuckles since the knuckles that were on the widetrack rearend were made for the smaller 83 wide tracks. I was installing the big brakes, and the calipers are huge compared to the wimpy newer CJ brakes. Took me about 10 minutes with an angle grinder.

I drove it around for a couple miles, got 6 months of insurance on it, and my wheel bearing spindle nuts loosened up after driving it. SO I had to pull it all back apart and tighten them up. Then the brake shields I put on where rubbing real bad. I told myself that I am not going to pull all this stuff back off just to take them shields off. SO I just bent them back out of the way - LOL. All is good

When I was going to go to Disney I was going to trailer it just incase I didnt do something right. But I couldnt find any of my tie down straps, so I ended up driving it 45 minutes to Disney, OKlahoma. IT did awesome, which its all 2 lane road all the way down there. Thing drives straight, I dont see what the big complaint about a detroit locker is. I love it.

Out on the trails it was even more radical. Thing did everything I wanted it to do and more. Had no problem, it was amazing! All the stuff I wanted to do in my CJ7 but couldnt do because of Gears and height, I did, and it did it without a problem. I am very impressed, and I am looking to be going back down there this coming weekend to try it on some more radical things. I wouldnt be afraid to drive this CJ to work everyday thats how solid and how good this thing drives.


So Disney this weekend

Then in the weeks to come:
Painting the jeep yellow
Cutting/Installing body armor on corners, rockers, and behind front wheel
Installing CB radio
Rebuilding Carter YF carb
Installing power steering (once I go and pick it up from MXracer)

I am sure there is more, but I have my hands full with them chores right now.
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