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Unread 09-23-2013, 07:07 PM   #46
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I about pulled my hair out over the 2 pcv valves in the mustang. I definitely feel your pain! If it still does it with the belt off, try disconnecting vacuum lines one at a time. Some of them are on temp switches and only work with a hot engine. If you still don't find it, then it would almost have to be internal engine.

Have you by chance done any work to it recently before it started making the noise, or did it jut start screaming one day?

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Unread 09-23-2013, 07:13 PM   #47
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Could it be the fan clutch? I guess I'll find that out when i run it without the belt.
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Unread 09-23-2013, 07:23 PM   #48
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Anything is technically possible, but I would think that if the fan clutch was making noise, it would also sound like an airplane taking off going down the road or the fan would have a noticeable wobble when the engine is running
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Unread 09-23-2013, 07:39 PM   #49
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I about pulled my hair out over the 2 pcv valves in the mustang. I definitely feel your pain! If it still does it with the belt off, try disconnecting vacuum lines one at a time. Some of them are on temp switches and only work with a hot engine. If you still don't find it, then it would almost have to be internal engine.

Have you by chance done any work to it recently before it started making the noise, or did it jut start screaming one day?
The only thing i can think of is i did replace the thermostat and had a hell of a time getting the bolt on the bottom of the housing to tighten up and a neighbor of mine ended up putting a lil JB Weld on it and it held perfectly. Do you think there could be anything comming from the thermostat housing? No antifreeze is leaking.
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Unread 09-23-2013, 07:52 PM   #50
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I also used bars leak in the radiator to check and make sure there were no leaks.
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Unread 09-23-2013, 07:55 PM   #51
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I wouldn't think so. The only way I could imagine that making noise is if the coolant level was low, and steam was coming through the "jiggle valve" in the thermostat.

BUT, if the noise happened the first time immediately after that then I'd suspect something.
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Unread 09-24-2013, 05:06 AM   #52
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....BUT, if the noise happened the first time immediately after that then I'd suspect something.
Good point, here.

When did you first notice the sound?
had you done anything immediately prior to it starting?
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Good point, here.

When did you first notice the sound?
had you done anything immediately prior to it starting?
I first noticed the sound about a week or two after i changed the thermostat. I then thought it was the fan belt, so i changed it and the sound continued. I added Bars Leak to the radiator incase somthing hadnt sealed properly (just in case). Then i thought it could be the alternator so I changed it, tightened all the manifold bolts and just now changed the water pump.

I think Saturday, I'm going to get it up to "squeal temp", park it, remove the belt and let her run and see if it still sounds like a banshee. A buddy of mine is going to come up too and check it out. Any other thoughts and ideas would be very much appreciated before I start throwing more money at this thing. Just Empty Every Pocket
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Unread 09-24-2013, 06:53 AM   #54
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I have never heard anything positive about "stop leak" type products for the cooling system. I have seen a water pump and tstat housing literally clogged to the point of being blocked with a gunky paste from use of similar products.
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Unread 09-24-2013, 07:05 AM   #55
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I have never heard anything positive about "stop leak" type products for the cooling system. I have seen a water pump and tstat housing literally clogged to the point of being blocked with a gunky paste from use of similar products.
+1 to that! I'm pretty sure the use of stop leak is what caused my timing cover to corrode. On the plus side, replacing the cover took care of any possible oil pressure problem on my 304.
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Unread 09-24-2013, 08:31 AM   #56
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My father and I used Bars Leak on the 67 GTO and it worked like a charm so thats what gave me the idea. It should have ran through by now so I can drain the radiator and add all new fluid (again) haha. As long as the squeal is fixed, I'm going to be happy!
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Unread 09-26-2013, 05:43 AM   #57
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I wouldnt femove the belt in attempt to get it hot. You run the risk of blowing a head gasket. Maybe replace your radiator cap.
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Unread 09-26-2013, 06:23 AM   #58
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My buddy is going to come up this weekend and he is pretty good with this kind of stuff. I've been looking stuff up nonstop but it seems like im spinning my wheels right now. Im sure its something simple, but it seems the simple things are almost impossible to find.
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Unread 09-26-2013, 08:03 AM   #59
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Hawk, The suggestion is to run it until the noise starts, shut it off and remove the belt. Then restart if and see if the noise is gone. Running it a minute or two without the belt won't hurt anything.
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Unread 09-26-2013, 09:54 AM   #60
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Hawk, The suggestion is to run it until the noise starts, shut it off and remove the belt. Then restart if and see if the noise is gone. Running it a minute or two without the belt won't hurt anything.
Orange and the rest of the crew, when I run the jeep with the belt off and lets say the squeal stops so we know its around all of the cooling system. I've replaced the belt, alternator, water pump, thermostat, and thermostat gasket. Where do you think the problem would be? Idle Pully maybe? Hoses? Radiator?
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