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Unread 10-23-2013, 10:07 AM   #706
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Thanks! I had my choice of about 10 birds he just happened to jump in front of my arrow.

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Unread 11-02-2013, 06:58 PM   #707
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ok so not having the experience of hunting with any family or really even at all as a youth/child....my 9 yr old daughter is wearing me out to take her hunting this year...the only rifle I have that I would feel safe with her shooting except for my savage model 11 .308cal.....I cant even feel it when I shoot it and I just recently purchased a Caldwell fieldpod to help her support the weight of the gun...I cant afford another rile this year for her specifically....any thoughts on this?...is it going to be too much or her?...I don't have any doubt she can aim it or even hit the target...im just concerned with her poor shoulder.....I would love to find a reasonable 243 single shot but no sense to search unless I got the funds..i would really like some input on this one if anybody has any...please..
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Unread 11-02-2013, 08:01 PM   #708
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Beg, borrow or buy a 223 or 243 that fits your daughter.

Stock fit makes a huge difference as to how they handle the recoil.

I started mine with a 22 rimfire when they were about 9 years old and they shot my 308 when they were 13 or 14, at the time I was loading 168 gr Matchkings and it is a 9lb rifle. A 308 will recoil almost exactly the same as a 30-06, neither are appropriate for a 9 year old in my opinion.

If you load your own, you could run Barnes 110g TTSX's at reduced velocity and have the same recoil as full power 95g Ballistic Tips in a 243.

There are quite a few options for factory 243 loads with 80-85gr bullets, with a stock that fits correctly, many 8-9 year olds will shoot it well.


In 308, Remington has a 125gr Core Loc load that runs about 2600fps, that still may be too much for your daughte; however, you know her a lot better than I do.
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Unread 11-02-2013, 10:28 PM   #709
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I loved my 243 when u was a kid. Got it when I was 13 or 14. Winchester model 70.
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Unread 11-02-2013, 10:54 PM   #710
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Beg, borrow or buy a 223 or 243 that fits your daughter.

Stock fit makes a huge difference as to how they handle the recoil.

I started mine with a 22 rimfire when they were about 9 years old and they shot my 308 when they were 13 or 14, at the time I was loading 168 gr Matchkings and it is a 9lb rifle. A 308 will recoil almost exactly the same as a 30-06, neither are appropriate for a 9 year old in my opinion.

If you load your own, you could run Barnes 110g TTSX's at reduced velocity and have the same recoil as full power 95g Ballistic Tips in a 243.

There are quite a few options for factory 243 loads with 80-85gr bullets, with a stock that fits correctly, many 8-9 year olds will shoot it well.


In 308, Remington has a 125gr Core Loc load that runs about 2600fps, that still may be too much for your daughte; however, you know her a lot better than I do.
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I loved my 243 when u was a kid. Got it when I was 13 or 14. Winchester model 70.
thanks for your input fellas...shes not large or small just average....the Winchester model 100(sold) I had in a .308 kicked like a gov. mule, as do my .50 cal and the .303 brit....the savage .308 is very heavy and has a recoil pad like a cadilac seat...and in my opinion has little or no recoil compared to my other rifles...but then again im 5'8" and 165lbs....im stuck between hurting her feelings by not letting her shoot or possibly hurting her arm because I do....the hornady sst 165gr are at 2840 fps and the federal 150gr are at 2650 fps...I had been using Winchester power point 180gr but didn't like them...but overall I guess I got my answer
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Unread 11-03-2013, 07:47 AM   #711
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I would not let her shoot the 308 Years ago, the wife was tossing skeet for me one afternoon and asked to shoot my 870. Told her it kicks but she insisted she could handle it. So, figured what's the harm, she'll either handle it or not. Well, she barely handled it. But now, years later, she'll can only shoot a 20 ga When she tries the 870, she flinches, has the yips just waiting for the kick.

Start her on a 243 and work up to the 308. She needs to learn the proper form and technique, not thinking about the recoil. Do you have any Rifle ranges, firing lines, or clubs around? Call them and ask if they rent guns. I'm sure they would be happy to help your girl out.

Have fun, sounds like you have a cool kid.
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Unread 11-03-2013, 01:53 PM   #712
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I would not let her shoot the 308 Years ago, the wife was tossing skeet for me one afternoon and asked to shoot my 870. Told her it kicks but she insisted she could handle it. So, figured what's the harm, she'll either handle it or not. Well, she barely handled it. But now, years later, she'll can only shoot a 20 ga When she tries the 870, she flinches, has the yips just waiting for the kick.

Start her on a 243 and work up to the 308. She needs to learn the proper form and technique, not thinking about the recoil. Do you have any Rifle ranges, firing lines, or clubs around? Call them and ask if they rent guns. I'm sure they would be happy to help your girl out.

Have fun, sounds like you have a cool kid.
yeah we don't...and shes way cool, wish she was just a little more girly tho...we already have one girl(boy)....lol...anyway I had to break the news to her this morning and shes been crying and sad every since...I have a rossi .22/12 ga. combo im going to cut the stock down a little and get her started with the .22...I have the word out that im looking for an appropriately sized rifle...I am also new to my area and don't have any buddies to fall back on...hopefully ill find one sooner rather than later...I want to find a used one simply due to the fact that if she changes her mind about this(like she does about everything else) I wont have a lot invested...have already gotten her camo and bought a Caldwell fieldpod and a ground blind...the fieldpod is really for both of us...lol my carpal tunnel and tendonitis make it hard for me to hold a rifle very long much less still...I have flat out given up on bowhunting...
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Unread 11-03-2013, 04:29 PM   #713
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Unread 11-03-2013, 07:55 PM   #714
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Took the 16 Y/O out after Elk in one of our jeeps. He shot it on top of the mountain about an hour before 0 dark thirty. Got it quartered and got off the mountain in the dark. Hiked back in the next morning and packed out 197 lbs. Whew....
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Unread 11-03-2013, 10:06 PM   #715
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Unread 11-04-2013, 05:51 AM   #716
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Took the 16 Y/O out after Elk in one of our jeeps. He shot it on top of the mountain about an hour before 0 dark thirty. Got it quartered and got off the mountain in the dark. Hiked back in the next morning and packed out 197 lbs. Whew....
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Unread 11-04-2013, 09:15 AM   #717
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An Old Timer friend gave this .410 side x side to my son. He got it from someone else in some kind of trade. Looks like it got thrown under the seat. It is a Brazilian knock-off, but it looks pretty good. I'm wondering how to refinish it?? How do you work around the checkering? I would like your suggestions.

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Unread 11-04-2013, 03:06 PM   #718
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A 7mm 08 would be another good choice for young/recoil sensitive shooters.
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Unread 11-04-2013, 03:46 PM   #719
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Scott,

My dad was an amateur gunsmith, so I spent many evenings watching him fashion gun stocks from a chunk of walnut when I was a youngster.

This video explains the procedure well.

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Unread 11-04-2013, 09:57 PM   #720
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Scott,

My dad was an amateur gunsmith, so I spent many evenings watching him fashion gun stocks from a chunk of walnut when I was a youngster.

This video explains the procedure well.

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Thanks, Matt. Just what I needed to see.
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