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Unread 03-29-2010, 10:01 PM   #16
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I personally had no choice but to register mine as an antique because all the emissions components were gone and it would have taken a long time to put it back. In Virginia, any vehicle over 25 years old does not need to pass the sniffer test. You are good there.

The antique rules are actually rather simple and there is one little phrase that covers everything I want to do with mine.

Antique registration limits your use of the vehicle to:
  1. Participation in antique car club activities, exhibits, tours, parades, and similar events.
  2. Testing its operation, obtaining repairs or maintenance, selling the vehicle or trailer, transportation to and from events as described in number 1 above and for the occasional pleasure driving not to exceed 250 miles from your residence.
  3. Carrying or transporting passengers, personal effects or other antique motor vehicles being transported for show purposes.
You may not, however, use your vehicle for general, daily transportation. This includes, but is not limited to, driving to and from work.

That one little phrase is my free pass since there is no clear definition of "occasional"! Although I really only drive it on the weekends so I never get stopped.

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Unread 03-29-2010, 10:30 PM   #17
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thankyou. I'm glad to finally be a fellow Jeeper. I looked at the stipulations regarding antique plates and pretty much the only time you can use the vehicle is to go back and forth from auto show to auto show. Honestly I want a Jeep for the sake of it being a Jeep. I want to go pretty much anywhere anytime. I live in the Chesterfield/Colonial Heights area of Virginia, but it seems that the emissions regulations are pretty similar statewide. I can't wait to upload some pics of my Jeep later this week. Heck maybe I'll catch you around this summer.

*edit* I honestly may go the antique route then. Thankyou for your input VACJ7, you may have just saved me a TON of work.

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Unread 03-29-2010, 10:43 PM   #18
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FYI, here is where I got the info and has the required forms as well. I gotta believe it is state wide for emissions but could be wrong. When I called my local DMV they said I did not need to pass the sniffer if I registered as a normal vehicle.

Commonwealth of Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles

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http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...0+cod+46.2-730

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Unread 03-31-2010, 07:16 PM   #19
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i think i love you, lol. thankyou. I Also don't mean to keep leaving out that I do realize I don't have to meet emissions stuff, but I still want to get all these hoses done.

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Unread 03-31-2010, 09:49 PM   #20
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I appologize in advance for my double post. I'm not sure how the Edit notification system works quite yet as I'm a newer member, but just to reiterate here's a photo-album of my jeep - Pictures by SeaJay7 - Photobucket let me know what you think. Do you see anything wrong with the hoses done so far?
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Unread 03-31-2010, 10:12 PM   #21
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Others may chime in, but it looks completely stock to me and compared to mine, most of the major components are still there. I think you even still have the pulse air system. Spend some time here, it will help you identify everything and what controls what. Table of Contents

Need to determine if the PO did a nutter bypass on it. The stepper motor is still connected to the carb so not really sure and the computer could still be controlling things. I disconnected mine when I nuttered it. You can search on 'nutter bypass' and determine if it is something you want to do or has been done already.

If all the emissions stuff is really there, and you can get it running well and make it look like the emissions components are correct, you could easily register it as a standard vehicle.

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Unread 03-31-2010, 11:43 PM   #22
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thankyou. I'd honestly never heard of the "nutter bypass" until just a few minutes ago. I may attempt that depending on how the hosing heck goes, lol. For any other people reading here's a good site i found with a simple Google of "nutter bypass" The "Nutter" Bypass
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Unread 04-01-2010, 07:19 AM   #23
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thankyou. I'd honestly never heard of the "nutter bypass" until just a few minutes ago. I may attempt that depending on how the hosing heck goes, lol. For any other people reading here's a good site i found with a simple Google of "nutter bypass" The "Nutter" Bypass
Here is our version, we do it so you can still pass emissions unlike that other writeup that puts the carb at full rich for some reason.
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Unread 04-01-2010, 08:00 AM   #24
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is this 2010-03-31193637.jpg picture by SeaJay7 - Photobucket the Control Valve Plug located here (Vacuum Hoses) near the top right? I wouldn't think it would matter, but does it matter what hose goes in the higher end vs the lower end or vice versa?
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is this 2010-03-31193637.jpg picture by SeaJay7 - Photobucket the Control Valve Plug located here (Vacuum Hoses) near the top right? I wouldn't think it would matter, but does it matter what hose goes in the higher end vs the lower end or vice versa?
Nope no matter, that part is a recalled part that needs to be fired into the garbage.

You only need a T fitting back there to pick up the feed line from the top of the charcoal canister (gas tank vent). The canister purges into the PCV system when you are at speed and warmed up. The PCV needs this extra feed to work right and the PCV controls engine sludge.
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ok awesome. One more random question. Does anyone have a good shot of where the timing advance is so I can run the line from the PCV to it.
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So I got a 1984 CJ7 for $800 bucks on friday... Pictures by SeaJay7 - Photobucket
Why is it that I can never find a Jeep for this price in Texas? I wonder if the prices are higher here than in other parts of the country. In Texas, for $800, I'd expect to find a Jeep that was a complete rust bucket, a rolling frame, or a pile of parts.

Nice Jeep!
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thankyou and I'm not sure, I hope you come across one like I did. I reallly appreciate all the comments on my jeep and the amazing help everyone has been able to give me. I hope I can give back in one way or another in the Jeep community down the road
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I capped all the carb stuff off except timing advance and pcv. Now it'll start up and sound good for bout a minute, but it'll cut off after so. I'm not sure what could be causing. Posibly either a fuel pump from not getting right fuel + air mixture or something else. I also went ahead and replaced the ignition coil just incase. Any ideas?
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ok awesome. One more random question. Does anyone have a good shot of where the timing advance is so I can run the line from the PCV to it.
Umm, they don't connect or have anything to do with each other.

The distributor advance come from the port on the center of the valve cover side of the carb. This line to the distributor gets a T fitting and runs to the top of the charcoal canister so both the canister and distributor work at the same time, when you are on the throttle. Usually the line to turn on the canister goes through the CTO valve so the canister doesn't turn on until the engine is warmed up.

The purge line from the canister just T fits into the PCV line where that recalled solenoid used to fit and then they both go into the back of the carb base plate in the big tube.
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