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Unread 05-22-2002, 12:49 PM   #1
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CJ ALL OVER THE ROAD

I bought a 75 cj-5 for my boy the other day, and on the way home liked to killed us all. The jeep was all over the road. Anyone have any suggestions on what I need to do to make it anywhere near safe? It felt like everything on the front end was wore out.

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Unread 05-22-2002, 01:06 PM   #2
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Does it have oversized tires on it? Maybe get a dual shock steering stabalizer...
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Unread 05-22-2002, 01:43 PM   #3
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Check the steering box where it attaches to the frame. If it has partially broken free or something like that, it could be causing a lot of play in the steering wheel. Also, turn the steering wheel left and right while watching all the steering components. If there is excessive play somewhere, that could cause the all over the road syndrome.
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Unread 05-22-2002, 01:55 PM   #4
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Very scary man!!!! You may want to have a shop give you an estimate.... Find one that does free estimates and then you can decide what to have fixed and what to do yourself.

When I drove my CJ-7 home from purchase I thought "Wow, those rancho-9000's must be blown... this thing is BOUNCY!!" Just to find out when I got home that the driver seat was only held in by the 2 rear bolts.... the rest was rusted out, and it was bouncing all around. I could have fallen right through the floor....
That was the last time I buy a "restored jeep" when its getting dark outside... Newbie mistake...

You may want to check all your ball-ends and bushings as well... if its stock, then they are probably gone.... add all those things up and you get a lot of play...
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Unread 05-22-2002, 05:58 PM   #5
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My 85 CJ-7 did the same thing last year. I replaced the steering box with an AGR High Performance box, best thing I ever did. I also put on a Borguesson steering shaft, that was a great choice too. Check your U-joints and tie rod ends. I did all this and it steered tighter than a new one.
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Unread 05-22-2002, 06:24 PM   #6
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A VERY common cause for your Jeep's problem is bad ball joints - this is especially true considering the age of the vehicle.
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Unread 05-22-2002, 10:57 PM   #7
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You need to give us the year and model of your Jeep. Also, do you know if the suspension is stock. Ther are many things that effect steering, if you can give us some info perhaps we can help you better.
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Unread 05-23-2002, 12:24 AM   #8
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Hey Jeepdad, he said it was a 75 CJ-5. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

How mechanically inclined are you? Is this the family household's first Jeep? Please give us more details. Was it all over the road at some MPH or all MPH? Many times worn out steering will manifest itself at higher speeds. And sometimes, steering turns out to be the normal wander and it's just part-n-parcel to owning a Jeep. Remember, it's not a minivan!

Maybe if you could take some pictures and post them for us here to see, we could advise further. Particularly if you could snap a shot or two under the front end. It'd be like havin' us there to advise!
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Unread 05-23-2002, 08:13 AM   #9
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Have some one sit in the drivers seat and turn the wheel back and forth while you watch all of the components from the front. look to see if there is a dead spot in the steering,(the steering wheel turns a little bit but nothing is turning up front) could be a sloppy lower steering shaft going in to the steering box or the box may need adjustment. Next while your friend is still turning the wheel back and forth (only a little bit is needed) grab the tie rod ends and look and feel for any play, there are four of them. also make sure the steering box mounting bolts are tight, and the U-bolts that hold the axle to the springs are tight, front AND rear. the ball joints can be checked by jacking up the front tire off the ground and prying the wheel up with a long bar and checking for play ( perhaps someone else can explain this part in more detail, hard for me to explain)last thing i can think of right now is to check your axle U-joints they should be nice and free, however i dont know of a way to check them with out taking them out( refer to your shop manual if you have one, its not hard) they dont need to be engaged for them to be a problem either as they will not allow the wheels to self center if they are bound up.
Hope this helps, keep us posted as to what you find. I'm curious as to what the problem is.
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Unread 05-23-2002, 08:19 AM   #10
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THANKS FOR ALL THE INPUT. LIKE I SAID IT'S A STOCK 75 CJ-5. LOOKS LIKE EVERYTHING IS STOCK AND ORIGIONAL IN THE FRONT. I HAVE OWNED SEVERAL JEEPS OVER THE YEARS AND I REMEMBER HOW THEY WERE ON THE ROAD. I GUESS I WANT TO GET IT FIXED AS CHEAP AS POSSIBLE, DON'T WANT TO PUT A LOT OF MONEY IN THIS ONE, JUST HAD A CHOICE OF EITHER A 4 WHEELER OR A JEEP FOR MY 12 YEAR OLD, CHOSE THE JEEP.HE WILL BE RIDING IT ON THE FARM ONLY, BUT ALL THE SHIMMY, POPPING AND CRACKING IS WORRING US.
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Unread 05-23-2002, 11:09 AM   #11
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You'd be amazed at how much replacing all the rubber bushings with polyurethane will tighten up a Jeep. It does, however, sound more like you have a bad steering box, or bad ball joints. Neither of which is too difficult to replace, but you'll be spending a little money if you have someone else do it. It probably would not be a bad idea to replace the ball joints first (about $60 total for both sides), since they are most likely old and shot anyway. If that doesn't fix the problem, look for a steering box on ebay or the bulletin boards, and see if that helps out.

Good Luck. I say start em on Jeeps young, that way they have a lifetime of wealth to sink into their vehicle...I'm still catching up.
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Unread 05-23-2002, 02:19 PM   #12
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When i was about your son's age (a little younger)
my dad got an old scooter and a car called a Vuaxhal&lt;sp? both were German. Nethier one ran but me and my buddies had a ball with 'em anyway.

I'll bet your son is in hog heaven.
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Unread 05-23-2002, 11:40 PM   #13
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Jeep for your 12 year old?!?!? Gee, I wish I could be a dad like that!

He'll turn into Popeye trying to keep it between the corn rows. Oh, and teach him to drive with the thumbs out. What are the chances of driving at high speed at the farm anyway? How about posting some pics for us to see/view/drool over?

Parts for the steering, if necessary, should be simple to find and cheap. Let us know if you need resources.
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Unread 05-25-2002, 05:54 AM   #14
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Had the same problem with my CJ- ended up replacing the lower steering shaft, adjusting out the "worm gear" in the steering box, and replacing bushings...also adding a steering stabilizer helps tremendously....
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