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Unread 11-19-2011, 01:35 PM   #91
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Unread 11-19-2011, 02:06 PM   #92
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Congrats one getting the tcase working Glenn!! IIRC the plug is just a plug that screws in and serves no other purpose. Maybe you can install another 4wd indicator switch in the hole.
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Unread 11-21-2011, 09:09 AM   #93
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I have updated my web site with pictures and commentary

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Unread 11-27-2011, 02:54 PM   #94
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Update One for today, another to follow.

Well we got several tasks started and one very close to being finished this weekend.

The one that got started took us further away from a running Jeep, but in the long run will be a step in the right direction. The AMC ignition box is notorious for being bad, and the computer controlled carburetor is notorious for running bad and being a real polluter.

The solution is to remove the computer and the ignition box, replace the carborator with a Weber.

The removal of the ignition box is called "Nuttering" and is detailed here http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f8/ho...bypass-522262/

There are a number of Jeeps out there that have tried to pass emissions with the stock setup and have not been able to , done this modification and passed with flying colors.

As my Jeep is registered as a Historical vehicle and has no OBDII connector, NY only does a visual inspection of the vehicle and I will pass. Below is what the engine compartment looked like with all the computer wiring and senors.



The dash needs to be removed to get to the computer. It also has to be removed because the heat core is leaking and I want to do the blower motor upgrade. Now you see it now you don't.






We worked our way across unplugging and unscrewing sensors.

We did not have to cut one wire, the whole harness was removed in tack with all the vacuum connections, electrical sensors and wiring connections. The whole thing can be reinstall at some future date if desired. The whole operation took less than 2 hours.




The whole thing will be put away so that if needed it can be reinstalled.




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Unread 11-27-2011, 03:39 PM   #95
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----Trust me, You will NEVER reinstall it! These things run great with just an ignition wire and charging system!
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Unread 11-27-2011, 03:48 PM   #96
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----Trust me, You will NEVER reinstall it! These things run great with just an ignition wire and charging system!
I believe you are correct, I was thinking more in terms of the state requiring it at some future date. I will pack everthing away so that if that happens it can be put back on.
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Unread 11-27-2011, 04:04 PM   #97
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Update two for today

The next task was to install the transfer case (see here for the story on why it was removed)

The first stumbling block was the transmission to transfer case gasket. No one seems to have it. I was sent this one by both Quadratec and Coiz and they are the wrong ones. Jeep dealers have discontinued it so when all else fails. Make it yourself. Lay it out, use a small ballpien hammer and tap around the edge and you have it.







I replaced the seals around the shift rods, removed the transfer case adapter and replace the oil seal in that also. Used an extension and four wheel hub socket, turned around as a seal driver.





Next was putting the shift lever back on, the plastic bushings were supplied by Coiz in a pay it forward move. THANKS





It works! I now can shift 4H 2H N 4L, In she goes, I hope it stays there for awhile.







More next week.
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Unread 11-27-2011, 06:53 PM   #98
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Hey Glenn, just found your thread. Nice job with the CJ! I live in Rochester and have 4 or 5 parts CJ's. If you need anything feel free to send me a message. John
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Unread 11-27-2011, 07:12 PM   #99
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Hey Glenn, just found your thread. Nice job with the CJ! I live in Rochester and have 4 or 5 parts CJ's. If you need anything feel free to send me a message. John
I'm still taking it more apart then putting it together. As I need parts I'll send an e-mail for sure! Pictures of your project?
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Unread 11-27-2011, 09:06 PM   #100
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Looking good so far. Just had a good time getting current on this thread. Lots of great links as well. Cheers.
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Unread 12-01-2011, 12:18 PM   #101
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So Glenn, on the subject of the Weber. Have you installed it yet and got it running? I have a 32 Weber sitting in the box yet. I was intending to put it on a few months ago but it didn't happen. So my concern now is doing too many new things all at one time vs. one thing at a time. I will be doing a few things to my engine while it's out for the resto, nothing major, but replacing the carb is one of them. When I put the Jeep back together I was going to leave out the 2 computer modules. Can you foresee any issues? I don't know what all these control, so if something doesn't go right when it's time to fire up the engine it would just be more to add to the troubleshooting list. Does that make sense how I'm explaining it?
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Unread 12-01-2011, 12:52 PM   #102
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Unread 12-01-2011, 01:08 PM   #103
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Did you beat him Glenn? Looks like he got you out of the hole but that didn't seem to last long.
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Unread 12-01-2011, 01:11 PM   #104
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I believe you are correct, I was thinking more in terms of the state requiring it at some future date. I will pack everthing away so that if that happens it can be put back on.
Yeah, I do the same thing. Of course you label them too. At least Ya can always help out another guy get down the road if needed. My buds laugh at my "barn-o-junk". But when I get that call..."do you still have that single fire coil for a Panhead laying around"? YUP! Or original Buckhorn handlebars/stock pipes, that everybody threw away as soon as they got home...I got a dozen sets, that ppl want for factory restos!
If ya got the room, save it. Maybe even "re-purpose" it.
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Unread 12-01-2011, 01:26 PM   #105
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So Glenn, on the subject of the Weber. Have you installed it yet and got it running? I have a 32 Weber sitting in the box yet. I was intending to put it on a few months ago but it didn't happen. So my concern now is doing too many new things all at one time vs. one thing at a time. I will be doing a few things to my engine while it's out for the resto, nothing major, but replacing the carb is one of them. When I put the Jeep back together I was going to leave out the 2 computer modules. Can you foresee any issues? I don't know what all these control, so if something doesn't go right when it's time to fire up the engine it would just be more to add to the troubleshooting list. Does that make sense how I'm explaining it?
No, I have just taken out the two modules. This can be done without cutting any wires. It unplugs. I have saved everthing so that if in the future I needed it for the state it can be put back.

I will be pulling the intake this weekend and powder coating it and putting a coat of paint on the engine while in place. Will not be the best paint job but will turn it into AMC blue.

As the Jeep was running off and MSD box before pulling the computers I see no reason why it would not run again once the Weber is installed. The computer is for controling the old carb, the ignition box was used to control the spark.
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