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Unread 11-05-2011, 03:54 PM   #61
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Ok, once again with help from the members of this forum I have completed the third task for today (first was to install door restraints http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f8/do...ssing-1281262/ the second was to go outside and clean out the garden (honey due project)).

That would be to take the new steering gear box shipped back to me for the defective one sent back (Morris 4X4 paid the return shipping)



Paint it up really nice.



Fill this empty space.



With the new gear box







Note the home made powder coated spacer inserted between the power steering box bracket and the frame now required because of the need to move the front spring pearch forward for the Old Man EMU springs


Unfortunate I cannot take it for a test drive as I have not resisted the need to take other parts of the Jeep apart.

The transmission parts should arrive next week.

But I can turn the input shaft by hand, and when it is installed and the front tires are off the ground I can rotate the steering system lock to lock easily by pushing and pulling on the tires.

I do believe the problem has been fixed. Also there is no play between the input shaft and the pitman arms!


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Unread 11-05-2011, 04:27 PM   #62
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Hi Glen, great thread I've been following it for a while. I have a question for you. I have the same shackles you have from OME and M.O.R.E shackle hangers. I couldn't intall the shackles the same way you did because the small bolt that goes across hit the gusset on the shackle hanger. Now my Jeep is onlt a frame with springs and should push out the bottom of the spring when I get some weight on the frame, but didn't you have the same clash when you had it jacked up to put them on?

You might be able to see what I mean here - http://s1140.photobucket.com/albums/...t=PB050206.jpg
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Unread 11-05-2011, 07:12 PM   #63
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Hi Glen, great thread I've been following it for a while. I have a question for you. I have the same shackles you have from OME and M.O.R.E shackle hangers. I couldn't intall the shackles the same way you did because the small bolt that goes across hit the gusset on the shackle hanger. Now my Jeep is onlt a frame with springs and should push out the bottom of the spring when I get some weight on the frame, but didn't you have the same clash when you had it jacked up to put them on?

You might be able to see what I mean here - http://s1140.photobucket.com/albums/...t=PB050206.jpg
That is interesting. You do not have the shackle pushed forward as I do, and it looks like if you did that it would hit the shackle.

I have my shackle pushed forward one hole like the instructions say to do.

It does not hit even when hanging with the axle weight supported by the spring.

I see you have a circle painted on the spring right in back of the shackle I have a + there.

I ordered the light weight springs for the front and the Med. for the rear.

I wonder if that is the difference
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Unread 11-06-2011, 01:51 AM   #64
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I may inquire with ARB on this one.
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Unread 11-06-2011, 05:21 AM   #65
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I am concerned that your shackles are installed backwards. How is the pinion angle on the front axle. With the wedge in there that way it makes me wonder if your pinion dropped massively.

Cheers and no jeers. Any work on a jeep is happy work.
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Unread 11-06-2011, 07:36 AM   #66
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I am concerned that your shackles are installed backwards. How is the pinion angle on the front axle. With the wedge in there that way it makes me wonder if your pinion dropped massively.

Cheers and no jeers. Any work on a jeep is happy work.
Interesting thought.

First, the shackles are installed the way the instructions said to install them. They are turned the opposite of the rear shackles and match the pictures at the bottom of the instruction sheet.

I have not checked the pinion angle. The wedges were installed to get the correct caster angle of 5.9 degrees. Caster is the center line drawn through the upper and lower ball joints. With the caster correct I would think the pinion angle is correct. I cannot change one without effecting the other.
This will be a daily driver with little off road. With the front hubs unlocked and in 2 wheel drive it will not make much difference.

The angle that worries me is the rear drive shaft angle. I may replace that drive shaft with a CV joint drive shaft.
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Unread 11-06-2011, 07:51 AM   #67
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Looks good

Don't forget to tighten the pitman arm nut.
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Unread 11-06-2011, 08:23 AM   #68
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Nice CJ, Nice Olds, Nice dragster, Nice F-truck...... and the list goes on!

Interesting build, you certainly seemed to have found a CJ in great condition to build!
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Cleaning this thing up is similar to a slightly abused pornstar throwing on a bunch of makeup to try to hide her eternal scars, but I think she doesn't look too bad
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Unread 11-06-2011, 10:39 AM   #69
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Looks good

Don't forget to tighten the pitman arm nut.


Yes sir, it is done. went through ever nut I touced from the top of the steering colum to the tie rod ends.
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Unread 11-06-2011, 10:42 AM   #70
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Nice CJ, Nice Olds, Nice dragster, Nice F-truck...... and the list goes on!

Interesting build, you certainly seemed to have found a CJ in great condition to build!

Yes sir, still removing all the PO "add ons".

Next task is to go back and cut off the u-bolt treads sticking through the spring pad skid plates, and then paint all the springs and shackles black.
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Unread 11-06-2011, 11:00 AM   #71
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Nice CJ, Nice Olds, Nice dragster, Nice F-truck...... and the list goes on!

Interesting build, you certainly seemed to have found a CJ in great condition to build!
The guy with the most toys when he dies wins.

The CJ actually came from your area, wel NH
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Unread 11-06-2011, 09:13 PM   #72
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The guy with the most toys when he dies wins.

The CJ actually came from your area, wel NH
YEP!!! Not "he who had the most toys".
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Unread 11-06-2011, 09:24 PM   #73
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You are correct on the shackles. If you had a stock spring hanger it would not look like the bolt would hit. But with those sweet rock hangers the built up parts will get bumped by the bolt when you start doing off camber trails. The bolt will actually keep the shackle from wrapping. But hense the fact that it will not be a super duper rock crawler I think that way makes good sense.

And caster is more important for road worthy ness.

I hope you can correct the rear drive line angle without having to drop your tranny crossmember. I think that sucks because it makes your motor bump your firewall. I found a link that might help with driveline. I got it off a forum page here on jeep forum.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JEEP-CV-DRIV...056300&vxp=mtr
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Unread 11-06-2011, 09:27 PM   #74
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You are correct on the shackles. If you had a stock spring hanger it would not look like the bolt would hit. But with those sweet rock hangers the built up parts will get bumped by the bolt when you start doing off camber trails. The bolt will actually keep the shackle from wrapping. But hense the fact that it will not be a super duper rock crawler I think that way makes good sense.

And caster is more important for road worthy ness.

I hope you can correct the rear drive line angle without having to drop your tranny crossmember. I think that sucks because it makes your motor bump your firewall. I found a link that might help with driveline. I got it off a forum page here on jeep forum.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JEEP-CV-DRIV...056300&vxp=mtr
Thanks for the link!

This one has been suggested as well http://www.4xshaft.com/
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Unread 11-06-2011, 09:34 PM   #75
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Spent some time today and painted up the new springs. I want to try and keep the "Stock" look. I also remove the u-bolts and cut an inch off of them so they do not stick through the skid plates









For a rattle can it came out ok.
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